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With zero way to verify the E2E, right?

• girvo 11y ago
  True, but is Telegram any better in that regard, really? It's protocol is at least open source, but the threat model is basically the same as Apple as far as I remember (it's been a while since I looked at it).
  • izacus 11y ago
    Yes, with the added bonus that you can talk to people that don't want to own Apple hardware.
    • newman314 11y ago
      I would use Signal but the UX isn't great.