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Yet it's the only user-friendly, "full featured" messaging app that offers an E2E option. I'm not a fan of Telegram. Their custom crypto and arrogance while se

Yet it's the only user-friendly, "full featured" messaging app that offers an E2E option. I'm not a fan of Telegram. Their custom crypto and arrogance while seemingly denying any issues doesn't inspire confidence. Yet I have not found another option that's friendly enough to get other users to sign up for. I tried TextSecure/Signal, but message deliverability wasn't reliable enough, and it lacks things like sending voice messages. It feels less polished than Telegram, which impacts users wanting to use it.

qznc 11y ago
I don't use Telegram, but Threema seems "full featured" enough for me. It is proprietary though. It is what I recommend to friends until TextSecure/Signal is good enough.
- danieldk 11y ago
  The problem is that most of my family and friends won't pay for a messaging app. Messaging apps are seen as something that is (always) free. So, the incentive to switch from Facebook Chat, Hangouts, or Whatsapp to Threema is near zero. Although I haven't pushed any messaging app, at least some of my friends are on Telegram.
superuser2 11y ago
iMessage is pretty user-friendly, "full-featured," and end-to-end encrypted for those inside the Apple ecosystem.
- MichaelGG 11y ago
  With zero way to verify the E2E, right?
  - girvo 11y ago
    True, but is Telegram any better in that regard, really? It's protocol is at least open source, but the threat model is basically the same as Apple as far as I remember (it's been a while since I looked at it).
    - izacus 11y ago
      Yes, with the added bonus that you can talk to people that don't want to own Apple hardware.
      - newman314 11y ago
        I would use Signal but the UX isn't great.