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Per Occam's Razor, the Yogi disconnected his EKG, got hypothermia, and lied when he claimed he didn't drink water. Is there a culture that doesn't fall for mys
by cjensen 11y ago
Per Occam's Razor, the Yogi disconnected his EKG, got hypothermia, and lied when he claimed he didn't drink water.
Is there a culture that doesn't fall for mystical cons?
- suneilp 11y agoThey ruled out disconnecting the EKG. I'm still dubious about surviving without water.
- jmount 11y agoThey didn't. Just because one group of observers didn't find the trick doesn't mean there was no trick.
- khed 11y agoFair point, but at what level of evidence would you personally say there was no trick?
- nilkn 11y agoI'd want a combination of video evidence along with a complete record of the EKG readings interpreted by a team of cardiac electrophysiologists.
- jmount 11y agoWay more than "I don't think they disconnected the EKG because I bet we would have seen some electrical noise." The authors wanted to be fooled, else they had no article.
- phaemon 11y agoA quick google suggests you can survive longer than 8 days without water, if you're not moving or eating.
- Florin_Andrei 11y agoBut you'd be in pretty bad shape after that.
- jtriangle 11y agoSeems like he was in bad shape according to the article.
- khed 11y agoI disagree. I am a physician training to be an electrophysiologist (cardiologist that sub-specializes in the electrical conducting system of the heart). Without significant equipment it would be impossible to disconnect the leads of an EKG without causing enormous irregularities in the read out. Even small movements, like subtly shifting the body, causes blatantly obvious noise in the EKG baseline. If these baseline changes weren't present, as the authors state, then it is unreasonable to assume the yogi removed the leads.
- carbocation 11y ago> The straight line on the ECG persisted till the eighth morning. Then, to our astonishment, electrical activity returned about half an hour before the pit was scheduled to be opened. After some initial disturbance, a normal configuration appeared. Sounds a bit like he disconnected and reconnected.
- sandworm101 11y agoThis was 1973 and a pen-on-paper EKG. The sensitivity re disconnecting things might be slightly less than you are used to these days.
- cjensen 11y agoIt's well-understood that if your heart stops for a few minutes, your brain dies. Since his brain didn't die, we can conclude that his heart never stopped. A human cannot live without water for the length of time claimed. Therefore we can conclude that the yogi is a liar. The letter prints out some of the EKGs, but declines to show the moment when the flatline occurs, and the moment when the heart is again detected.[1] You now have four facts: (1) the yogi's heart did not stop, (2) the EKG lead showed no activity, (3) the yogi is a habitual deceiver and (4) the most important data is intentionally hidden from the reader Do you still feel confident that the yogi did not disconnect the leads? [1] An alternative explanation would be that this 1973-era EKG machine did not make continuous recordings, in which case it defies reason to claim that it was watched carefully enough to rule out irregularities during the transition to/from flatline.
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- swayvil 11y agoOccam also suggests that there are little people living inside my tv and that everybody around me is a thoughtless automation merely imitating sentience. What you are citing sounds more like convention.