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I agree - but this rules doesn't apply to anything except SDR and modular systems that are also consumer devices - which are not most consumer devices. That sa

I agree - but this rules doesn't apply to anything except SDR and modular systems that are also consumer devices - which are not most consumer devices. That said - I am not condoning the FCC policy at all - I'm actually against it - I just don't really care that much because it impacts nothing I do and so few use cases I care about.

PhasmaFelis 11y ago
Does it affect cellphones? From the description I would have assumed it did, but I haven't seen much talk about that.
- McGlockenshire 11y ago
  Even if it does apply, the radios on modern phones are already black boxes and completely detached from the rest of the phone. Some consider them a significant security threat already.
fnordfnordfnord 11y ago
>"I don't care about X, because I never X." You sure have spent a lot of time ITT explaining to everyone, advocating, practically that the FCC ruling is unimportant because you think that your own interests will be unaffected. Well, congratulations, but if we were all so short-sighted we'd eventually be reduced to only the hobbies and activities that a majority of us approve. We get it. You don't care, because you don't think it affects you.
- lexicalscope 11y ago
  I've actually said a few times I think it's a bad ruling - I'm just not practically impacted by it :). That said though I think being alarmist about it does not help the cause - it makes people less likely to actually listen to you once they realize you were being an alarmist. I actually agree with the points in the article - I just disagree with how they were made. In this thread my only point is the FCC hardware restricting instead of requiring software restriction neuters SDR to begin with so is a dead end. It's all or nothing insofar as "protections" go. My view is still it should be nothing, but I don't think it is as big a deal as its being made out to be.
pdonis 11y ago
> this rules doesn't apply to anything except SDR and modular systems that are also consumer devices - which are not most consumer devices. Um, what? Pretty much every device that does wifi has a SDR in it.

PhasmaFelis 11y ago

Does it affect cellphones? From the description I would have assumed it did, but I haven't seen much talk about that.

McGlockenshire 11y ago
Even if it does apply, the radios on modern phones are already black boxes and completely detached from the rest of the phone. Some consider them a significant security threat already.

fnordfnordfnord 11y ago

>"I don't care about X, because I never X." You sure have spent a lot of time ITT explaining to everyone, advocating, practically that the FCC ruling is unimportant because you think that your own interests will be unaffected. Well, congratulations, but if we were all so short-sighted we'd eventually be reduced to only the hobbies and activities that a majority of us approve. We get it. You don't care, because you don't think it affects you.

lexicalscope 11y ago
I've actually said a few times I think it's a bad ruling - I'm just not practically impacted by it :). That said though I think being alarmist about it does not help the cause - it makes people less likely to actually listen to you once they realize you were being an alarmist. I actually agree with the points in the article - I just disagree with how they were made. In this thread my only point is the FCC hardware restricting instead of requiring software restriction neuters SDR to begin with so is a dead end. It's all or nothing insofar as "protections" go. My view is still it should be nothing, but I don't think it is as big a deal as its being made out to be.

pdonis 11y ago

> this rules doesn't apply to anything except SDR and modular systems that are also consumer devices - which are not most consumer devices. Um, what? Pretty much every device that does wifi has a SDR in it.