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She ruined it for them? Do you think it’s prudent of those in positions of power to ascribe her (as you claim) mistakes and misjudgments to her gender and not

by arrrg 11y ago

She ruined it for them? Do you think it’s prudent of those in positions of power to ascribe her (as you claim) mistakes and misjudgments to her gender and not their process of selection and training? I mean, you even talk about her lack of training as the reason for this (which is clearly unrelated to her gender), so if that’s the case how could she have ruined it for other women? The fix for a lack of training is not to not hire women (that’s just a total non-sequitur), but to train more and better. In that context it seems to me as though sexist assumptions by those in positions of power combined with a political selection process “ruined it for them for another 20 years”, not her performance. You cannot shoulder the oppressed with expectations of perfect performance, even under adverse conditions. It’s totally awesome when they can pull it off, but that can’t be and isn’t the norm.

jkot 11y ago
Yes, she ruined it for them. Two more women would flight just three years after her, they would perform a space walk, but that was cancelled after her flight. I only mentioned that because she tried to act as victim of sexism, but she was is one of the reasons: She said she was sad so few Russian women have followed her into space, none at all for one 19-year period, > in that context it seems to me as though sexist assumptions by those in positions of power combined Nice try. Korolev, technicians etc were the one opposing women astronauts. Politicians 'and those at position of power' wanted women astronauts, but they lost argument after her flight. Communist party did more for women rights that any western politician. > You cannot shoulder the oppressed with expectations of perfect performance If you are buying this paternity propaganda bullish have a look at first Japanese astronaut. His backup was a woman with better qualifications. Mir crew had to sedate and restrain him, because he got panic attack. Doubt that would happen if she would fly.
- arrrg 11y ago
  “Korolev, technicians etc” are people in positions with power. Otherwise they couldn’t have an argument with the political leadership and win. Their sexist assumptions ruined this. Don’t perpetuate this victim-blaming bullcrap and don’t shoulder all the responsibility on the oppressed.
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by arrrg 11y ago

jkot 11y ago

Yes, she ruined it for them. Two more women would flight just three years after her, they would perform a space walk, but that was cancelled after her flight. I only mentioned that because she tried to act as victim of sexism, but she was is one of the reasons: She said she was sad so few Russian women have followed her into space, none at all for one 19-year period, > in that context it seems to me as though sexist assumptions by those in positions of power combined Nice try. Korolev, technicians etc were the one opposing women astronauts. Politicians 'and those at position of power' wanted women astronauts, but they lost argument after her flight. Communist party did more for women rights that any western politician. > You cannot shoulder the oppressed with expectations of perfect performance If you are buying this paternity propaganda bullish have a look at first Japanese astronaut. His backup was a woman with better qualifications. Mir crew had to sedate and restrain him, because he got panic attack. Doubt that would happen if she would fly.

arrrg 11y ago
“Korolev, technicians etc” are people in positions with power. Otherwise they couldn’t have an argument with the political leadership and win. Their sexist assumptions ruined this. Don’t perpetuate this victim-blaming bullcrap and don’t shoulder all the responsibility on the oppressed.
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