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They'll be allowed back on the road; but you can bet that there will be backlash about them losing performance because of it.

BashiBazouk 11y ago
Backlash, as I will never buy another car from Volkswagen Group. I own one of the affected models and if all they do is a software update that turns it in to a gutless wonder with mediocre mileage they will lose quite a few otherwise devoted customers, possibly permanently. Lots of owners love their TDIs. Mine has been a great car. I think this goes beyond cynical corporate profits. A beloved technological possession is likely to be taken away or neutered. Once they go beyond disappointment and approach heartbreak, spurn kicks in.
- jessaustin 11y ago
  Do you mean to imply that reduced performance will upset you more than causing 25x the smog that the law allowed?
  - BashiBazouk 11y ago
    I would say the one who automatically tosses out the highest number in a possible range is the one doing the implying... Edit: Heh. Changing the 40X to a 10X, eh? Nice... Edit2: Now 25X. Really, dude?
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    - jessaustin 11y ago
      Are you now implying that there is some "smog multiplier" below which you are more upset about reduced performance? What is that multiplier? How many asthmatic children are required for your driving satisfaction? I have no explanation for your reading difficulties.
      - BashiBazouk 11y ago
        I'm implying you are asking a leading question and pulling some serious sleaze editing your posts to make sure my reply does not match up. For the record, I can be motivated by multiple parameters at the same time as it is in this case. I'm looking for the performance/mileage/emissions/cost sweet spot that I thought this car held when I bought it. I'm not hung up on the binary opposition that you seem to be accusing me. As for the hysterical save the children crap and ad hominem, I'm sure you are quite proud of yourself for coming up with it... For the record, this is the post I am responding to should this poster continue his questionable editing habits: "Are you now implying that there is some "smog multiplier" below which you are more upset about reduced performance? What is that multiplier? How many asthmatic children are required for your driving satisfaction? I have no explanation for your reading difficulties."
  - sfryder 11y ago
    It's a mixture of both. When the car was bought, we thought we were getting not only great performance, but also that it was a clean, environmentally friendly car. We were being sold a lie. We're angry on both ends of the issue - we want the performance and the efficiency, and it turns out we can only pick one.

BashiBazouk 11y ago

Backlash, as I will never buy another car from Volkswagen Group. I own one of the affected models and if all they do is a software update that turns it in to a gutless wonder with mediocre mileage they will lose quite a few otherwise devoted customers, possibly permanently. Lots of owners love their TDIs. Mine has been a great car. I think this goes beyond cynical corporate profits. A beloved technological possession is likely to be taken away or neutered. Once they go beyond disappointment and approach heartbreak, spurn kicks in.

jessaustin 11y ago
Do you mean to imply that reduced performance will upset you more than causing 25x the smog that the law allowed?
- BashiBazouk 11y ago
  I would say the one who automatically tosses out the highest number in a possible range is the one doing the implying... Edit: Heh. Changing the 40X to a 10X, eh? Nice... Edit2: Now 25X. Really, dude?
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  - jessaustin 11y ago
    Are you now implying that there is some "smog multiplier" below which you are more upset about reduced performance? What is that multiplier? How many asthmatic children are required for your driving satisfaction? I have no explanation for your reading difficulties.
    - BashiBazouk 11y ago
      I'm implying you are asking a leading question and pulling some serious sleaze editing your posts to make sure my reply does not match up. For the record, I can be motivated by multiple parameters at the same time as it is in this case. I'm looking for the performance/mileage/emissions/cost sweet spot that I thought this car held when I bought it. I'm not hung up on the binary opposition that you seem to be accusing me. As for the hysterical save the children crap and ad hominem, I'm sure you are quite proud of yourself for coming up with it... For the record, this is the post I am responding to should this poster continue his questionable editing habits: "Are you now implying that there is some "smog multiplier" below which you are more upset about reduced performance? What is that multiplier? How many asthmatic children are required for your driving satisfaction? I have no explanation for your reading difficulties."
- sfryder 11y ago
  It's a mixture of both. When the car was bought, we thought we were getting not only great performance, but also that it was a clean, environmentally friendly car. We were being sold a lie. We're angry on both ends of the issue - we want the performance and the efficiency, and it turns out we can only pick one.