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A sensitive subject to say the least. I find it mind boggling that anyone would want to emulate Israel in any capacity concerning security. They've had suicide

by fjabre 17y ago

A sensitive subject to say the least. I find it mind boggling that anyone would want to emulate Israel in any capacity concerning security. They've had suicide bombers in cafes, night clubs, school buses, etc.. and no matter what side of the fence you're on it's pretty obvious that whatever they're doing is not working.

shpxnvz 17y ago
Not I am in favor of emulating the security model for other reasons, but when it comes to air travel security, is there anyone more effective than El Al? According to the timeline on Wikipedia, there hasn't been even a semi-successful terrorist attack on one of their airliners in 40 years. I really am curious if there is any contrary information out there, as I've been unable to find any.
sorbus 17y ago
But not in airports, so clearly they're doing something right there. At the very least, blast-proof glass and bomb-proof boxes for suspected bombs are a great idea - making the airport more modular, so only tiny areas of it have to be evacuated, instead of the entire thing, if something does go wrong.
quizbiz 17y ago
You are wrong, it is working. The controversy is over the cost. There are countless instances of identified and disabled devices. Who knows how many deaths the metal detectors/security check at the entrance to nearly every point of public gathering (malls, movie theaters, parking decks, etc.) have prevented. Their inconvenience would not be acceptable in the US but I'm just saying it does make a difference. Just last week, an explosive device made from a gas canister and fireworks was found on Highway 443. Its a major road between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, a road I have used several times since my arrival here for my winter break. Despite the record of suicide bombings in clubs et al, the Ben Gurion airport has experienced no such acts of terror. None. Israel is a technology hub, it attracted Warren Buffet's first investment outside of the US, and its citizens live everyday normally despite the threats. Israel's defense forces do what they deem as necessary. It is working. But many ask at what cost.
- encoderer 17y ago
  +1 and that doesn't even touch it's added value as a deterrent.

by fjabre 17y ago

shpxnvz 17y ago

Not I am in favor of emulating the security model for other reasons, but when it comes to air travel security, is there anyone more effective than El Al? According to the timeline on Wikipedia, there hasn't been even a semi-successful terrorist attack on one of their airliners in 40 years. I really am curious if there is any contrary information out there, as I've been unable to find any.

sorbus 17y ago

But not in airports, so clearly they're doing something right there. At the very least, blast-proof glass and bomb-proof boxes for suspected bombs are a great idea - making the airport more modular, so only tiny areas of it have to be evacuated, instead of the entire thing, if something does go wrong.

quizbiz 17y ago

You are wrong, it is working. The controversy is over the cost. There are countless instances of identified and disabled devices. Who knows how many deaths the metal detectors/security check at the entrance to nearly every point of public gathering (malls, movie theaters, parking decks, etc.) have prevented. Their inconvenience would not be acceptable in the US but I'm just saying it does make a difference. Just last week, an explosive device made from a gas canister and fireworks was found on Highway 443. Its a major road between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, a road I have used several times since my arrival here for my winter break. Despite the record of suicide bombings in clubs et al, the Ben Gurion airport has experienced no such acts of terror. None. Israel is a technology hub, it attracted Warren Buffet's first investment outside of the US, and its citizens live everyday normally despite the threats. Israel's defense forces do what they deem as necessary. It is working. But many ask at what cost.

encoderer 17y ago
+1 and that doesn't even touch it's added value as a deterrent.