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Did you even read the original article? It's a goal to move passengers from parking lot to gate in 25 minutes. Half-hour interviews aren't a part of the proce

by kareemm 17y ago

Did you even read the original article? It's a goal to move passengers from parking lot to gate in 25 minutes. Half-hour interviews aren't a part of the process.

jonknee 17y ago
Perhaps if you're a local it's quick. But they also recommended to show up three hours early for a reason... Long interrogations are quite common. If you fit a profile they will drill you like you have Osama on speed dial. This was a puff piece for how awesome El Al is, but the reality is their method only works because of the small number of passengers (and their willingness to accept racism). http://www.elal.co.il/ELAL/English/AllAboutYourFlight/AtTheAirport/CheckInTimes.htm http://www.elal.co.il/ELAL/English/AllAboutYourFlight/AtTheA...
- kareemm 17y ago
  But they also recommended to show up three hours early for a reason. US check-in times for int'l flights are 2h. I'd rather show up 3h early and feel safe than 2h and feel like security is a joke. If you fit a profile they will drill you like you have Osama on speed dial. This was a puff piece for how awesome El Al is, but the reality is their method only works because of the small number of passengers (and their willingness to accept racism). First, nobody is free of racial bias. This bias will leak into the decisions we all make, everyday. Take this test and let me know how it turns out: https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Launch?study=/user/edu.. https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Launch?study=/user/edu.... That said, the Israelis use behavioral profiling, not racial profiling. There's no need to dismiss a security system that the US can learn from and improve by dropping the "R" bomb.
- nir 17y ago
  You're right it's a puff peace (the guy interviewed sells security services..) and that some passengers get grilled, but wrong about the race angle: People I know that got the longer question & search treatment include a French Indian woman, a Korean guy and an Irish American from San Francisco. The only thing they all had in common a certain profile - in their 20s, traveling alone, little luggage, staying for a short period. I got profiled a few times in other airports - a random search in Pittsburgh, a less random one at Auckland, NZ, a few more I'm probably forgetting - all in all, I prefer that to the process that subjects everyone to a full on search as they do in FRA and sometimes in LHR and US airports. That said, I suppose if I was consistently getting profiled I'd probably be less game. As for "3 hours early", you'll find almost every airline has this in their website, to cover themselves. Except for very infrequent fliers, no one really shows up 3 hours early. It's a small airport and usually pretty quick to get through.
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by kareemm 17y ago

Did you even read the original article? It's a goal to move passengers from parking lot to gate in 25 minutes. Half-hour interviews aren't a part of the process.

jonknee 17y ago

Perhaps if you're a local it's quick. But they also recommended to show up three hours early for a reason... Long interrogations are quite common. If you fit a profile they will drill you like you have Osama on speed dial. This was a puff piece for how awesome El Al is, but the reality is their method only works because of the small number of passengers (and their willingness to accept racism). http://www.elal.co.il/ELAL/English/AllAboutYourFlight/AtTheAirport/CheckInTimes.htm http://www.elal.co.il/ELAL/English/AllAboutYourFlight/AtTheA...

kareemm 17y ago
But they also recommended to show up three hours early for a reason. US check-in times for int'l flights are 2h. I'd rather show up 3h early and feel safe than 2h and feel like security is a joke. If you fit a profile they will drill you like you have Osama on speed dial. This was a puff piece for how awesome El Al is, but the reality is their method only works because of the small number of passengers (and their willingness to accept racism). First, nobody is free of racial bias. This bias will leak into the decisions we all make, everyday. Take this test and let me know how it turns out: https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Launch?study=/user/edu.. https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/Launch?study=/user/edu.... That said, the Israelis use behavioral profiling, not racial profiling. There's no need to dismiss a security system that the US can learn from and improve by dropping the "R" bomb.
nir 17y ago
You're right it's a puff peace (the guy interviewed sells security services..) and that some passengers get grilled, but wrong about the race angle: People I know that got the longer question & search treatment include a French Indian woman, a Korean guy and an Irish American from San Francisco. The only thing they all had in common a certain profile - in their 20s, traveling alone, little luggage, staying for a short period. I got profiled a few times in other airports - a random search in Pittsburgh, a less random one at Auckland, NZ, a few more I'm probably forgetting - all in all, I prefer that to the process that subjects everyone to a full on search as they do in FRA and sometimes in LHR and US airports. That said, I suppose if I was consistently getting profiled I'd probably be less game. As for "3 hours early", you'll find almost every airline has this in their website, to cover themselves. Except for very infrequent fliers, no one really shows up 3 hours early. It's a small airport and usually pretty quick to get through.

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