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WW2 era? What a load of rubbish, just because it has a propellor. The basic Tucano first flew in 1980. By the same yardstick I assume Vice thinks a helicopter

WW2 era? What a load of rubbish, just because it has a propellor. The basic Tucano first flew in 1980. By the same yardstick I assume Vice thinks a helicopter is da Vinci era? ~~ The turboprop ( geared propellor driven by a jet engine ) is still the most efficient means of aviation propulsion devised; it surpassed internal-combustion engines in efficiency in the early 1960s, with the Turboméca Astazou, and continued to improve. Turboprops fall-off in efficiency with altitude and speed, but below around 20,000 ft and 400 kts they're the champions.

joonoro 11y ago
I was wondering the same thing. The first thing I did was look up the Tucano on Wikipedia and I couldn't find anything about WW2.
avar 11y ago
It's obviously mostly a linkbait title, but to be fair to it it's a reference to most WWII planes using propellers, as opposed to the jet planes of today. They're not claiming the Tucano was literally designed in the 40s.
- mikeash 11y ago
  The title is claiming exactly that. If it's not what they meant then they should have chosen a better title.
  - brianwawok 11y ago
    Clickbaits suck, but they work. Up to mods to filter them
benihana 11y ago
Yeah just check out that picture of the clearly WW2 era all glass cockpit. It has a freaking digital attitude indicator!
- roosterjm2k2 11y ago
  While this plane oviously isn't WW2 era, the glass cockpit says nothing. There are plenty J3 cubs, planes WW2 pilots learned to fly on, still out there today... and many of them have glass cockpits w/ gps and all the goodies. Airframes last a logn time when taken care of, and swapping panels is trivial...
  - sanoli 11y ago
    The glass cockpit per se says nothing. All the rest does, though. http://www.aereo.jor.br/wp-content/uploads//2011/06/Cockpit-do-A29-Super-Tucano.jpg http://www.aereo.jor.br/wp-content/uploads//2011/06/Cockpit-...
- roosterjm2k2 11y ago
  While this plane oviously isn't WW2 era, the glass cockpit says nothing. There are plenty J3 cubs, planes WW2 pilots learned to fly on, still out there today... and many of them have glass cockpits w/ gps and all the goodies. Airframes last a logn time when taken care of, and swapping panels is trivial...
allencoin 11y ago
Typically in the news process the copyeditor chooses or edits the title of the piece for brevity and "punch." By saying "WWII-era," the title very succinctly sums up the idea that "hey, there's this interesting airplane that's been in the works alongside the very expensive F-35, but it's actually much cheaper and much less technologically advanced, but actually much better suited for the war in Afghanistan--and it resembles the types of fighter planes that you've seen in 'Pearl Harbor' and 'Saving Private Ryan'." The title is meant to convey as much information to the audience (a general, non-technical audience) in as few words as possible, and it mostly does its job. If you read the article, it's clear that the authors understand the difference.
- reitoei 11y ago
  I think dingaling's point is that the headline is clickbait.
  - Lawtonfogle 11y ago
    The editor was trying to convey as much info within the given length as they could. They didn't realize that it would result in a title that was also clickbait. Remember, never blame malice where stupidity will suffice. (P.S. Of course it was click bait and purposefully done so, there is an art to creating clickbait headlines that can be defended as not being clickbait.)
    - smallape 11y ago
      Do you actually have a line of communication to the editor or are you guessing?
      - Lawtonfogle 11y ago
        Direct line of communication. But they could still be lying, so I guess I should say it was a guess. Actually, I got a psychic to get me direct access to their brain, so I'm sure they aren't lying. But they could be incorrectly remembering it. So we still can't be certain. For it to be 100% not a guess, I'm going to need to get go back in time with my time machine and have the psychic come with me, but he is saying something about how that could cause problems. So sadly we are stuck just inferring (guessing) with the information given.
usrusr 11y ago
Re 1980: True, that's nearly too young even to properly qualify as space age.
Symmetry 11y ago
The editor was probably confusing the A-29 Super Tucano with the A-29 Hudson, which really was WWII era.
tdkl 11y ago
When I saw the headline picture of A29, it reminded me of P51 Mustang. So maybe the author was thinking somewhere in that area.

joonoro 11y ago

I was wondering the same thing. The first thing I did was look up the Tucano on Wikipedia and I couldn't find anything about WW2.

avar 11y ago

It's obviously mostly a linkbait title, but to be fair to it it's a reference to most WWII planes using propellers, as opposed to the jet planes of today. They're not claiming the Tucano was literally designed in the 40s.

mikeash 11y ago
The title is claiming exactly that. If it's not what they meant then they should have chosen a better title.
- brianwawok 11y ago
  Clickbaits suck, but they work. Up to mods to filter them

benihana 11y ago

Yeah just check out that picture of the clearly WW2 era all glass cockpit. It has a freaking digital attitude indicator!

roosterjm2k2 11y ago
While this plane oviously isn't WW2 era, the glass cockpit says nothing. There are plenty J3 cubs, planes WW2 pilots learned to fly on, still out there today... and many of them have glass cockpits w/ gps and all the goodies. Airframes last a logn time when taken care of, and swapping panels is trivial...
- sanoli 11y ago
  The glass cockpit per se says nothing. All the rest does, though. http://www.aereo.jor.br/wp-content/uploads//2011/06/Cockpit-do-A29-Super-Tucano.jpg http://www.aereo.jor.br/wp-content/uploads//2011/06/Cockpit-...
roosterjm2k2 11y ago
While this plane oviously isn't WW2 era, the glass cockpit says nothing. There are plenty J3 cubs, planes WW2 pilots learned to fly on, still out there today... and many of them have glass cockpits w/ gps and all the goodies. Airframes last a logn time when taken care of, and swapping panels is trivial...

allencoin 11y ago

Typically in the news process the copyeditor chooses or edits the title of the piece for brevity and "punch." By saying "WWII-era," the title very succinctly sums up the idea that "hey, there's this interesting airplane that's been in the works alongside the very expensive F-35, but it's actually much cheaper and much less technologically advanced, but actually much better suited for the war in Afghanistan--and it resembles the types of fighter planes that you've seen in 'Pearl Harbor' and 'Saving Private Ryan'." The title is meant to convey as much information to the audience (a general, non-technical audience) in as few words as possible, and it mostly does its job. If you read the article, it's clear that the authors understand the difference.

reitoei 11y ago
I think dingaling's point is that the headline is clickbait.
- Lawtonfogle 11y ago
  The editor was trying to convey as much info within the given length as they could. They didn't realize that it would result in a title that was also clickbait. Remember, never blame malice where stupidity will suffice. (P.S. Of course it was click bait and purposefully done so, there is an art to creating clickbait headlines that can be defended as not being clickbait.)
  - smallape 11y ago
    Do you actually have a line of communication to the editor or are you guessing?
    - Lawtonfogle 11y ago
      Direct line of communication. But they could still be lying, so I guess I should say it was a guess. Actually, I got a psychic to get me direct access to their brain, so I'm sure they aren't lying. But they could be incorrectly remembering it. So we still can't be certain. For it to be 100% not a guess, I'm going to need to get go back in time with my time machine and have the psychic come with me, but he is saying something about how that could cause problems. So sadly we are stuck just inferring (guessing) with the information given.

usrusr 11y ago

Re 1980: True, that's nearly too young even to properly qualify as space age.

Symmetry 11y ago

The editor was probably confusing the A-29 Super Tucano with the A-29 Hudson, which really was WWII era.

tdkl 11y ago

When I saw the headline picture of A29, it reminded me of P51 Mustang. So maybe the author was thinking somewhere in that area.