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How can you say this when you very well know, eating pork means killing innocent animals, keeping them locked down, in the same way these people are holding sma
by inDigiNeous 11y ago
How can you say this when you very well know, eating pork means killing innocent animals, keeping them locked down, in the same way these people are holding small children locked down and abusing them.
Eating pork is as much abuse as is abusing little children, or even more, as the animal is brutally killed, a thinking, living being. You cannot just put animal rights aside like that, this is probably along the lines people who abuse children are thinking, that it is their right to abuse children, like the western world thinks "It is our right to kill, slaughter and eat animals".
Maybe if we wouldn't think that we can just raise, kill and eat other living, conscious, thinking, feeling beings, just like we are, all the time, then we would have less abuse of ourselves too?
Compassion goes a long way. If we cannot have compassion to other living beings inhabiting this planet, how can we have compassion to other people inhabiting this planet. Can you see the analogy ?
And if you're making the comparison to intelligence as being the factor that limits what we should eat and kill, then I can remind that it has been studied that pigs are as intelligent or even more intelligent than dogs even. Now, what do you think such intelligent beings are thinking when they are being held captive and tortured in their poor living conditions, just to be force fed, force breeded and then violently killed just to fill our bellies ?
- cm2187 11y agoIslam doesn't ban eating pork to protect the life of these innocent creatures.
- erikb 11y agoBut saving animals is another, third, moral point of view in which eating another living, breathing being is just as bad or worse than raping one. Just as with Islam you can say "no, my moral codex is more important" or you can try to accept it.
- yardie 11y agoThis is literally the stupidest thing I've read on HN in a very long time. Bravo intrepid commenter for declaring the consumption of meat to be worse than the sexual abuse of small children. You've done a disservice to vegans and vegetarians, everywhere.
- MichaelApproved 11y agoDon't be rude.
- jacquesm 11y agoHe's not rude, at a guess that's quite restrained (compared to what my version of that comment would be anyway).
- MichaelApproved 11y agoFrom the guidelines > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. E.g. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- erikb 11y agoThat's not what I did. You read it incorrectly. But I have to say I aimed to achieve that misinterpretation. Now either you just ignore everything and think all the world is a simple happy place, or you get a step closer to that "aha" effect, realising there are people that really have that point of view and that it is as valid as yours. While for your personal life it might never matter, it certainly matters for cooperation on an international level.
- inDigiNeous 11y agoThat's your view. My view is that all life is equally important. Why is abusing a child worse than killing another living being ? Can you elaborate ? I know and realize this is a stupid argument to have, especially on Hacker News, but if people are ready to make arguments about the subject that animals have no right, on a certain level we are ready to make the argument that maybe foreigners or "lower level people" as many tend to think don't have the same right to live. You see the connection I'm trying to make ?
- rimantas 11y agoWait till the news about some group who fights for animal righst so much that they want to get rid of predators come to HN. Yes, it does exist.