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Culture is a distraction. The actions in the articles against boys and girls fail the live-and-let-live principle on the most basic levels. The word 'uncivilis

by cturner 11y ago

Culture is a distraction. The actions in the articles against boys and girls fail the live-and-let-live principle on the most basic levels. The word 'uncivilised' gets thrown around a bit, and loses weight. Here we see it in the raw. These practices are uncivilised behaviour. They favour might-is-right over the freedom of the victims. People should not be slaves. Humans should be able to live their lives to pursue their own interests.

coldtea 11y ago
>The key issue is individual rights vs might-is-right. Culture is a distraction. Your very conception of "individual rights" (and what they should be) is cultural itself. (Not to mention abused all the time to support hypocritical interests).
- berntb 11y ago
  No, the "individual rights" are declared by UN. And ratified by Afghanistan, as another commenter noted. I think you are trolling. (This would probably not be deleted, I'm hellbanned. Too easily trolled.)
- coldtea 11y ago
  >No, the "individual rights" are declared by UN The UN is just a bunch of big powers bullying and doing what they like to lesser countries. And those big powers don't even sign or ratify all decisions made by the UN, or selectively pick what they care for and ignore those that don't favor them. The US for example has refused to cooperate in a international war criminal court that asks to trial its own. Or how about the fact that in the 60's, decades since the signing of those rights, blacks still have to fight against seggregation in schools, hotels, etc? And modern stuff like torture, drone killings, rampant police killings of innocents, death penalty (including for minors) and all that stuff against basic human rights? Heck, when the declaration of UN was signed, most of the countries doing the signing were still colonies, and all of the major ones had colonies themselves. Hurray for hypocrisy -- and selective enforcing of them as an excuse and as a weapon against lesser countries.
  - berntb 11y ago
    I won't bite on your hooks. Like your examples from 50+ years ago in a [edit: completely different society from now], that drone killings are humane warfare (at least compared to traditional alternatives like bombing whole villages) and that you argue human rights over criminal misuse of authority that have generated a sh-tstorm of outrage when it reached the public attention. I'll just note that you argue that a wrong can be ignored because of other wrongs. And that you defend (/make relativist argument for) rape of children. Sorry to disappoint. I have work to do, so you have to find someone else to anger which is easily trolled... :-) Edit: I will agree that hypocrisy and realpolitik is standard for democracies, which often have as cynical foreign policy as dictators. They lie equally bad, too. I assume that is because foreigners don't have votes at home.
fit2rule 11y ago
>Culture is a distraction. Culture is a lie. It must be re-told in order to perpetuate. Abandon any culture that allows - or requires - one to hate and destroy the life of others. Its as simple as that. Cultures are lies. Stop telling the lies; end the hate. Abandon any culture that allows you to hate.

by cturner 11y ago

coldtea 11y ago

>The key issue is individual rights vs might-is-right. Culture is a distraction. Your very conception of "individual rights" (and what they should be) is cultural itself. (Not to mention abused all the time to support hypocritical interests).

berntb 11y ago
No, the "individual rights" are declared by UN. And ratified by Afghanistan, as another commenter noted. I think you are trolling. (This would probably not be deleted, I'm hellbanned. Too easily trolled.)
coldtea 11y ago
>No, the "individual rights" are declared by UN The UN is just a bunch of big powers bullying and doing what they like to lesser countries. And those big powers don't even sign or ratify all decisions made by the UN, or selectively pick what they care for and ignore those that don't favor them. The US for example has refused to cooperate in a international war criminal court that asks to trial its own. Or how about the fact that in the 60's, decades since the signing of those rights, blacks still have to fight against seggregation in schools, hotels, etc? And modern stuff like torture, drone killings, rampant police killings of innocents, death penalty (including for minors) and all that stuff against basic human rights? Heck, when the declaration of UN was signed, most of the countries doing the signing were still colonies, and all of the major ones had colonies themselves. Hurray for hypocrisy -- and selective enforcing of them as an excuse and as a weapon against lesser countries.
- berntb 11y ago
  I won't bite on your hooks. Like your examples from 50+ years ago in a [edit: completely different society from now], that drone killings are humane warfare (at least compared to traditional alternatives like bombing whole villages) and that you argue human rights over criminal misuse of authority that have generated a sh-tstorm of outrage when it reached the public attention. I'll just note that you argue that a wrong can be ignored because of other wrongs. And that you defend (/make relativist argument for) rape of children. Sorry to disappoint. I have work to do, so you have to find someone else to anger which is easily trolled... :-) Edit: I will agree that hypocrisy and realpolitik is standard for democracies, which often have as cynical foreign policy as dictators. They lie equally bad, too. I assume that is because foreigners don't have votes at home.

fit2rule 11y ago

>Culture is a distraction. Culture is a lie. It must be re-told in order to perpetuate. Abandon any culture that allows - or requires - one to hate and destroy the life of others. Its as simple as that. Cultures are lies. Stop telling the lies; end the hate. Abandon any culture that allows you to hate.