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Convincing people to moderate their meat consumption is hard though. I've started drinking soylent+protein powder, but I don't know how I would go about convinc

Convincing people to moderate their meat consumption is hard though. I've started drinking soylent+protein powder, but I don't know how I would go about convincing my wife to accept the idea of a meal with beans, lentils, or chickpeas instead of meat. A technical solution to a social problem might be the right approach here. http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/10/society-is-fixed-biology-is-mutable/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/10/society-is-fixed-biolog...

gbog 11y ago
Soylent and powder is really not the way, if you ask me. What your parent said is to moderate the use of meat in the USA. I live in China, and here we eat one or two different dishes with meat at each meal, often the meat is so fat that it is translucid. But then we just pick a few pieces and a whole 5 person dinner amounts to just 300 to 500 grams of meat. And we never eat it "plain and juicy", it is always cooked with veggies, mushrooms, etc. It is very different from the extremes I heard about in the US: on one side you have those 1kg/pers steak houses, which are meat orgies that should only be allowed once or thrice in a life. On the other side all veggies variants, and soylent. Is there really no way to take food as a normal thing in the US? I.e. something you enjoy for quality and diversity, not something you either fear like spiders or devour like the beasts we are not supposed to be anymore.
- afarrell 11y ago
  Oh my wife isn't like that and her meat consumption is totally reasonable. Our standard meal is basically what you describe: about 250g of beef with a bunch of veggies and maybe rice or bread. I've only been having soylent for breakfasts during the weekday, where I'm trying to get out the door and get to work quickly so I keep my post-workout momentum. I don't think I've ever seen anyone consume 1kg+ of meat. Maybe at a Brazilian steakhouse, but that is a rare and expensive luxury I've only been to once for a friend's party that they called "the meat faucet".
pbreit 11y ago
That's why I like the idea of a little meat. 4oz is usually enough to get the great meat taste. At In n Out, get the single. At Super Duper, get the 4oz burger. At steakhouses, get the smaller cuts. Mix minced veggies into burger patties. Even meatloaf doesn't need that much meat to be dee-lish. Etc. If you want more meat, stick with chicken and fish.

gbog 11y ago

Soylent and powder is really not the way, if you ask me. What your parent said is to moderate the use of meat in the USA. I live in China, and here we eat one or two different dishes with meat at each meal, often the meat is so fat that it is translucid. But then we just pick a few pieces and a whole 5 person dinner amounts to just 300 to 500 grams of meat. And we never eat it "plain and juicy", it is always cooked with veggies, mushrooms, etc. It is very different from the extremes I heard about in the US: on one side you have those 1kg/pers steak houses, which are meat orgies that should only be allowed once or thrice in a life. On the other side all veggies variants, and soylent. Is there really no way to take food as a normal thing in the US? I.e. something you enjoy for quality and diversity, not something you either fear like spiders or devour like the beasts we are not supposed to be anymore.

afarrell 11y ago
Oh my wife isn't like that and her meat consumption is totally reasonable. Our standard meal is basically what you describe: about 250g of beef with a bunch of veggies and maybe rice or bread. I've only been having soylent for breakfasts during the weekday, where I'm trying to get out the door and get to work quickly so I keep my post-workout momentum. I don't think I've ever seen anyone consume 1kg+ of meat. Maybe at a Brazilian steakhouse, but that is a rare and expensive luxury I've only been to once for a friend's party that they called "the meat faucet".

pbreit 11y ago

That's why I like the idea of a little meat. 4oz is usually enough to get the great meat taste. At In n Out, get the single. At Super Duper, get the 4oz burger. At steakhouses, get the smaller cuts. Mix minced veggies into burger patties. Even meatloaf doesn't need that much meat to be dee-lish. Etc. If you want more meat, stick with chicken and fish.