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I believe he meant things like using RabbitMQ instead of SQS (SQS isn't very good anyway IMHO) and things like that. More services running on plain old instance

I believe he meant things like using RabbitMQ instead of SQS (SQS isn't very good anyway IMHO) and things like that. More services running on plain old instances rather than AWS specific APIs, Azure specific APIs, etc. This prevents you from getting too locked in and losing control over your application. I honestly can't believe that Netflix can't even load their home page without DynamoDB and all this other stuff. Edit: Looks like Netflix is back online (10:53AM EST)

nasalgoat 11y ago
Yes, exactly. It's tempting to drink the Kool-Aid on the various services but the more you rely on them, the less flexible you become and more open to overall service failures like this one. You can take advantage of the benefits of EC2 without relying on the other services. I mean, if even Netflix can't stay up during this, what hope does a startup have?
- ukd1 11y ago
  Netflix -IS- up, and working fine. Pretty amazing, imho.
  - deleted 11y ago
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  - toomuchtodo 11y ago
    http://downrightnow.com/netflix http://downrightnow.com/netflix
  - mattkrea 11y ago
    https://imgur.com/NNYLUZK https://imgur.com/NNYLUZK
    - smcnally 11y ago
      There is only Zuul?
      - clebio 11y ago
        Can you hint at what this means, for the uninitiated?
        Tiksi 11y ago
        I think he was making a reference to ghostbusters: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/there-is-no-dana-only-zuul http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/there-is-no-dana-only-zuul
      - clebio 11y ago
        Ok, lmgtfy. https://github.com/Netflix/zuul https://github.com/Netflix/zuul
  - georgeott 11y ago
    Pocket just came back up also. Issue might be resolved?
  - ams6110 11y ago
    I was watching Netflix this morning and a number of titles had troubles loading repeatedly. They did eventually work though.
stickfigure 11y ago
This is silly. Do you think you and your staff will maintain your homebrew RabbitMQ installation with better uptime than Amazon's team? And how much time/expense/manpower are you willing to devote to setting it up and monitoring it? And is that going to make your startup more successful than if you spent those resources developing the features your customers are asking for?
- xbasic 11y ago
  Yes, competent people with good planning can easyly do a lot better than that. We do serious hosting for government and company and if we had a outage like amazon had yesterday, we would loose at least half of our clients and pay heavy cash penality. I don't understand why people give so much a break to amazon. They have one of the worst uptime.

nasalgoat 11y ago

Yes, exactly. It's tempting to drink the Kool-Aid on the various services but the more you rely on them, the less flexible you become and more open to overall service failures like this one. You can take advantage of the benefits of EC2 without relying on the other services. I mean, if even Netflix can't stay up during this, what hope does a startup have?

ukd1 11y ago
Netflix -IS- up, and working fine. Pretty amazing, imho.
- deleted 11y ago
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- toomuchtodo 11y ago
  http://downrightnow.com/netflix http://downrightnow.com/netflix
- mattkrea 11y ago
  https://imgur.com/NNYLUZK https://imgur.com/NNYLUZK
  - smcnally 11y ago
    There is only Zuul?
    - clebio 11y ago
      Can you hint at what this means, for the uninitiated?
      - Tiksi 11y ago
        I think he was making a reference to ghostbusters: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/there-is-no-dana-only-zuul http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/there-is-no-dana-only-zuul
    - clebio 11y ago
      Ok, lmgtfy. https://github.com/Netflix/zuul https://github.com/Netflix/zuul
- georgeott 11y ago
  Pocket just came back up also. Issue might be resolved?
- ams6110 11y ago
  I was watching Netflix this morning and a number of titles had troubles loading repeatedly. They did eventually work though.

stickfigure 11y ago

This is silly. Do you think you and your staff will maintain your homebrew RabbitMQ installation with better uptime than Amazon's team? And how much time/expense/manpower are you willing to devote to setting it up and monitoring it? And is that going to make your startup more successful than if you spent those resources developing the features your customers are asking for?

xbasic 11y ago
Yes, competent people with good planning can easyly do a lot better than that. We do serious hosting for government and company and if we had a outage like amazon had yesterday, we would loose at least half of our clients and pay heavy cash penality. I don't understand why people give so much a break to amazon. They have one of the worst uptime.