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I commend your enumeration of religious and mystic texts.

by dmos62 11y ago

logicallee 11y ago
Yes I was also impressed. But in making the point, the poster surely went overboard - Mahabarata (I just read about it on Wikipedia) is the "longest poem ever written", ten times as long as the combined Iliad and Odyssey, and at 1.8 million words that is going to be hard to fit into 1.5 megabytes even by itself - unless it is massively redundant I don't see how you can do it. The entropy per word has to be about ~1 byte which is cutting it very, very close. Add in all of the other mentioned texts and commentary and I don't buy it. The mentioned compression (cmix v7) surely won't fit it all http://www.byronknoll.com/cmix.html http://www.byronknoll.com/cmix.html
- captn3m0 11y ago
  And it would also require unicode, so it gets even more harder since you have to go out of ASCII range.
  - fsiefken 11y ago
    Yes, it would require unicode if I'd include the native language versions. But in this example I meant the english versions I have for personal use - so it's pure ascii markdown. Except for the greek I don't understand arabic, hebrew, sanskrit, pali or the gurmuki script.
- fsiefken 11y ago
  Yes, I must confess it was an educated guess and I was not precise enough. The Mahabhrata is huge so I use an abridged translation (the one by Ramesh Menon). The complete translated Mahabhrata (by Bibek Debroy) is 12 Mbyte uncompressed. Still it's a challenge to get my pearls of wisdom collection down to 1.5 Mbyte (with either an abridged Mahabharata or the Bhagavad Gita section) even without the commentaries as the combined english plain text files are 1.7 Mbyte compressed - 200 Kbyte to much - (from 11 Mbyte uncompressed ascii with the Mahabharata epos substituted by the Bhagavad Gita). So I went a bit overboard, but I still think it's possible to get there, some redundant lines, tabs, introductions and spaces can still be removed. Perhaps I can remove and include certain texts to conform more to what I personally consider the religious highlights of humanity. Removing the ceremonial descriptions, Revelation, chronicles and battles and including The Tao te Ching, The Upanishads, The Gospel of Thomas or The Veda's or make a more contemporary selection including the dark night of the soul, imitation of christ, Rumi and certain hadiths on the life of Mohammed. 10 Mbytes of ascii should be enough for every spiritual adept (and fit 1 A4 of multicolor matrix barcodes), it for sure fits on a 2M formatted floppy.

I commend your enumeration of religious and mystic texts.

by dmos62 11y ago

I commend your enumeration of religious and mystic texts.

Yes I was also impressed. But in making the point, the poster surely went overboard - Mahabarata (I just read about it on Wikipedia) is the "longest poem ever written", ten times as long as the combined Iliad and Odyssey, and at 1.8 million words that is going to be hard to fit into 1.5 megabytes even by itself - unless it is massively redundant I don't see how you can do it. The entropy per word has to be about ~1 byte which is cutting it very, very close. Add in all of the other mentioned texts and commentary and I don't buy it. The mentioned compression (cmix v7) surely won't fit it all http://www.byronknoll.com/cmix.html http://www.byronknoll.com/cmix.html

captn3m0 11y ago
And it would also require unicode, so it gets even more harder since you have to go out of ASCII range.
- fsiefken 11y ago
  Yes, it would require unicode if I'd include the native language versions. But in this example I meant the english versions I have for personal use - so it's pure ascii markdown. Except for the greek I don't understand arabic, hebrew, sanskrit, pali or the gurmuki script.
fsiefken 11y ago
Yes, I must confess it was an educated guess and I was not precise enough. The Mahabhrata is huge so I use an abridged translation (the one by Ramesh Menon). The complete translated Mahabhrata (by Bibek Debroy) is 12 Mbyte uncompressed. Still it's a challenge to get my pearls of wisdom collection down to 1.5 Mbyte (with either an abridged Mahabharata or the Bhagavad Gita section) even without the commentaries as the combined english plain text files are 1.7 Mbyte compressed - 200 Kbyte to much - (from 11 Mbyte uncompressed ascii with the Mahabharata epos substituted by the Bhagavad Gita). So I went a bit overboard, but I still think it's possible to get there, some redundant lines, tabs, introductions and spaces can still be removed. Perhaps I can remove and include certain texts to conform more to what I personally consider the religious highlights of humanity. Removing the ceremonial descriptions, Revelation, chronicles and battles and including The Tao te Ching, The Upanishads, The Gospel of Thomas or The Veda's or make a more contemporary selection including the dark night of the soul, imitation of christ, Rumi and certain hadiths on the life of Mohammed. 10 Mbytes of ascii should be enough for every spiritual adept (and fit 1 A4 of multicolor matrix barcodes), it for sure fits on a 2M formatted floppy.