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This is also how I feel with PHP Developers who work in development agencies or larger companies, either in a small team or by themselves (probably even larger

by thejosh 11y ago

This is also how I feel with PHP Developers who work in development agencies or larger companies, either in a small team or by themselves (probably even larger teams, but no first hand experience with that). Basically they refuse to use version control (FTP their code to the live server), use a terrible dev system, non-existent or terrible staging environments or newer technologies such as composer or other tools which will save them time and effort. Don't even get me started on the lack of tests, and how buggy and broken their code ends up being - "we don't have time to write tests", yet spend weeks fixing critical issues that would have been found... /rant

nobleach 11y ago
I see the lack of unit tests constantly. I did a small stint with PHP and one of the first things I did was learn PHPUnit. Having invested heavily in the TDD Koolaid with Rails/Python, I made sure I learned how to apply the same ideas in PHP. And yes, I've seen quite a bit of the "1999 was just fine" culture among PHP developers too. If you can't deploy your code at the touch of a button, you should be working your way to that goal.
Joeri 11y ago
On the flip side, the best practice for both Java and PHP is trending towards the same thing. Routes + DI + immutable types + fluent api's. Give it another decade and the only way to tell the difference will be the presence of $ characters.