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I too am a motorcyclist (85K miles of sport bike riding, Sunday morning ride to Pt Reyes was a lot of that, current stable is r1200gs and wr250r). I despise lo

I too am a motorcyclist (85K miles of sport bike riding, Sunday morning ride to Pt Reyes was a lot of that, current stable is r1200gs and wr250r). I despise loud pipes, just frigging hate them. But I live in deer country (Santa Cruz mountains) and I've hit a deer at speed on the GS (did not wipe out, lifted the front end and had my front tire hit it square in the hind quarters, spun the deer around, I dropped the front wheel down and did a very shaky coast to a stop. My hands were shaking like a vibrator on steroids). After that experience I really wonder if loud pipes would have scared the deer off. I tend to doubt it, I've not installed a louder pipe, but it's made me less pissed off at the loud pipe people. Not a lot less pissed off, but some. BTW, shoutout to the Ninja 250 and especially the 500 version. I had two of the EX500's and those were by far my favorite sport bikes. Lots of torque, could pull any 600rr off the light (yeah, the 600 was blasting by me 2/3rds of the way down the block, but do you really want to ride a sewing machine? I don't. Loved my 500 twins.)

emp_zealoth 11y ago
I despise overly loud pipes - like, you have to scream loud. But,Ive been riding a bike a lot as well. Way too quiet exhausts (like EU is constantly pushing on us) are dangerous - ive seen it myself - my dad with a louder exhaust passes with no issues and I, silently, get cut off and nearly run off the road by a guy that assumes that mirrors are for pussies. It happened quite a few times already.
- luckydude 11y ago
  Annoying lights help. I ride with some quite bright led lights I got off of advrider.com and I think they help. You could get the flashy kind that bicyclists use, those definitely make them more visible.
- plonh 11y ago
  If the other driver didn't use a mirror, how is a bike more threatened than a car?
  - emp_zealoth 11y ago
    If you are in a modern EU/Korean/Japanese car, you would have to be rather unlucky or going fast if anything was to happen to you. Also,it takes a lot more to actually drive you off the road - you can literally push back. On a motorbike all it takes is a bump,and, you have to be lucky not to end up in hospital. Btw in no way im for window rattling. However, EURO4/5, I would not be surprised if my vacuum cleaner was louder

emp_zealoth 11y ago

I despise overly loud pipes - like, you have to scream loud. But,Ive been riding a bike a lot as well. Way too quiet exhausts (like EU is constantly pushing on us) are dangerous - ive seen it myself - my dad with a louder exhaust passes with no issues and I, silently, get cut off and nearly run off the road by a guy that assumes that mirrors are for pussies. It happened quite a few times already.

luckydude 11y ago
Annoying lights help. I ride with some quite bright led lights I got off of advrider.com and I think they help. You could get the flashy kind that bicyclists use, those definitely make them more visible.
plonh 11y ago
If the other driver didn't use a mirror, how is a bike more threatened than a car?
- emp_zealoth 11y ago
  If you are in a modern EU/Korean/Japanese car, you would have to be rather unlucky or going fast if anything was to happen to you. Also,it takes a lot more to actually drive you off the road - you can literally push back. On a motorbike all it takes is a bump,and, you have to be lucky not to end up in hospital. Btw in no way im for window rattling. However, EURO4/5, I would not be surprised if my vacuum cleaner was louder