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Concorde tickets require global entry or your country's equivalent. Problem solved.

by zrail 11y ago

15155 11y ago
> require global entry It's not a matter of people delaying or impacting flights, it's a matter of the flight being less appealing with inevitable security wait times. Requiring anything like this will only make an already niche service less accessible with no benefit.
- dalke 11y ago
  Some airports have special priority lines for the business and first-class passengers. There are no security wait times if you have the money to skip the lines. Eg, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/01/AR2005080101435.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08... and http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/magazine/11wwln-lede-t.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/magazine/11wwln-lede-t.htm... . And Concorde passengers had the money.
- InclinedPlane 11y ago
  Global entry is easy to get and cheap compared to the cost of concorde travel.
  - toomuchtodo 11y ago
    Stupid easy. $100 fee for five years, background check, and a digital record of your fingerprints are kept on file.
    - darklajid 11y ago
      I hope you missed the /s tags. A background check and your fingerprints, because ..? I recently landed in Heathrow after a looong time staying in Europe (yes, England's not Europe) only. I was literally shaking when I saw all the people going through a random scanner, looking into a camera, providing their fingerprints. Ignoring that the system didn't even work half the time while I was watching and that it needed a supervisor that reset everything, brought the people back out of the 'check zone' to .. turn it off and on again: That's insane. This is the amount I'm willing to pay to a crappy government to go easy on me: This is the list of governments that are allowed to take my fingerprints outside of a criminal investigation(* ): Again, I really really hope you were just kidding and making fun of a bad situation. *: The next time my German ID runs out I _might_ have to do that for my own home country - and I still try to figure out ways to avoid that/let the ID run out (illegal) without a renewal etc. And I try to vote for the parties that aren't insane.
      - johncolanduoni 11y ago
        I can't speak for the poster, but I have global entry and share the same sentiment without sarcasm. The government didn't "take" my fingerprints, I gave them to it in exchange for skipping most of customs and domestic security screening. The interview was probably the most noninvasive interaction I've had with CBE. If you don't feel like s worthwhile for you, then don't do it. If the government gets a hard on for framing me, they have much more surefire and efficient methods than planting my fingerprints. Until they start making the normal screenings worse to try and force people into it (which I don't think is the case, the TSA has gotten a lot easier to deal with in the last few years) I don't see it as a miscarriage of justice.
        stouset 11y ago
        My GE interview was a joke. The only question I was asked was about my move from Atlanta to SF. For some inexplicable reason, I was asked three or four times if there was any gap between living in the two cities, to which the answer was no: I moved directly from an apartment in one to an apartment in the other. That was the full extent of the questioning, which lasted maybe 5 minutes.
      - InclinedPlane 11y ago
        This is a perfectly valid criticism, global entry does represent buying in even further to an already intrusive and broken system.
      - merb 11y ago
        in germany you don't need a fingerprint even for new id's. not yet and not in the near future. it's up to you if your id will include them.
        schoen 11y ago
        You do for a passport though, right? (I thought also for the ID, but I was more confident about the passport.)

Concorde tickets require global entry or your country's equivalent. Problem solved.

by zrail 11y ago

Concorde tickets require global entry or your country's equivalent. Problem solved.

15155 11y ago

> require global entry It's not a matter of people delaying or impacting flights, it's a matter of the flight being less appealing with inevitable security wait times. Requiring anything like this will only make an already niche service less accessible with no benefit.

dalke 11y ago
Some airports have special priority lines for the business and first-class passengers. There are no security wait times if you have the money to skip the lines. Eg, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/01/AR2005080101435.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08... and http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/magazine/11wwln-lede-t.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/magazine/11wwln-lede-t.htm... . And Concorde passengers had the money.
InclinedPlane 11y ago
Global entry is easy to get and cheap compared to the cost of concorde travel.
- toomuchtodo 11y ago
  Stupid easy. $100 fee for five years, background check, and a digital record of your fingerprints are kept on file.
  - darklajid 11y ago
    I hope you missed the /s tags. A background check and your fingerprints, because ..? I recently landed in Heathrow after a looong time staying in Europe (yes, England's not Europe) only. I was literally shaking when I saw all the people going through a random scanner, looking into a camera, providing their fingerprints. Ignoring that the system didn't even work half the time while I was watching and that it needed a supervisor that reset everything, brought the people back out of the 'check zone' to .. turn it off and on again: That's insane. This is the amount I'm willing to pay to a crappy government to go easy on me: This is the list of governments that are allowed to take my fingerprints outside of a criminal investigation(* ): Again, I really really hope you were just kidding and making fun of a bad situation. *: The next time my German ID runs out I _might_ have to do that for my own home country - and I still try to figure out ways to avoid that/let the ID run out (illegal) without a renewal etc. And I try to vote for the parties that aren't insane.
    - johncolanduoni 11y ago
      I can't speak for the poster, but I have global entry and share the same sentiment without sarcasm. The government didn't "take" my fingerprints, I gave them to it in exchange for skipping most of customs and domestic security screening. The interview was probably the most noninvasive interaction I've had with CBE. If you don't feel like s worthwhile for you, then don't do it. If the government gets a hard on for framing me, they have much more surefire and efficient methods than planting my fingerprints. Until they start making the normal screenings worse to try and force people into it (which I don't think is the case, the TSA has gotten a lot easier to deal with in the last few years) I don't see it as a miscarriage of justice.
      - stouset 11y ago
        My GE interview was a joke. The only question I was asked was about my move from Atlanta to SF. For some inexplicable reason, I was asked three or four times if there was any gap between living in the two cities, to which the answer was no: I moved directly from an apartment in one to an apartment in the other. That was the full extent of the questioning, which lasted maybe 5 minutes.
    - InclinedPlane 11y ago
      This is a perfectly valid criticism, global entry does represent buying in even further to an already intrusive and broken system.
    - merb 11y ago
      in germany you don't need a fingerprint even for new id's. not yet and not in the near future. it's up to you if your id will include them.
      - schoen 11y ago
        You do for a passport though, right? (I thought also for the ID, but I was more confident about the passport.)