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Denver has a handful of growing roundabouts in newer neighborhoods, but unfortunately they keep installing them in all the wrong places. I'm convinced they are

Denver has a handful of growing roundabouts in newer neighborhoods, but unfortunately they keep installing them in all the wrong places. I'm convinced they are "testing the waters" by placing them in residential neighborhoods with very little traffic, which honestly just makes people annoyed by them, rather then appreciate them. Roundabouts aren't a replacement for stop signs, they are a replacement for stop lights.

brc 11y ago
Light traffic residential areas are a perfect place for them. There's nothing more annoying than observing a stop sign in an empty road. I have roundabout near me and when there is no traffic on the roundabout you just drive through it. The residential roundabouts have only a slightly raised centre so you can drive through in almost a straight line. Late at night when there is no traffic it saves having to stop at all.
- foobarian 11y ago
  I wonder if it would be cheaper to install "Rolling Stop" signs.
textingplan 11y ago
I remember when they installed one out in Littleton (suburban Denver) - it flows traffic spectacularly but it took years, maybe even a decade for people to get used to it. I once came upon it and found a full size four door sedan in the (raised) island in the middle with four befuddled teenagers standing around shaking their heads. They had plowed into the traffic circle straight ahead, jumped the raised embankment and landed right in the center island.
- brc 11y ago
  But the roundabout saved them. If they were not paying attention, as clearly they weren't, then they could have had a collision in the centre of an intersection. Better to end up in the he Center than t-boning a car.
knappe 11y ago
Some of the most egregious roundabouts I've ran (heh) into have been in Aspen. They're right after you get off 70 (ie going 65/70 mph) and are often overgrown with bushes and trees. I'm all for roundabouts, I think when done right they're great, but I don't know what they were thinking when putting these in. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6439352,-106.3776606,248m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6439352,-106.3776606,248m/da... (2008 footage) https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6277372,-106.4200775,185m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6277372,-106.4200775,185m/da...
- lisper 11y ago
  That's actually Vail, not Aspen.
  - knappe 11y ago
    Yeah, you're right. I had the maps right, but name wrong.
enjo 11y ago
They just installed a pair on the new Pecos bridge over 70. Those are really nice uses of roundabouts, so maybe we're starting to "get it"?
- seanalltogether 11y ago
  Yes, I was going to mention the only one that really works well is that pecos roundabout since it's actually solving a real traffic problem.
shawkinaw 11y ago
I think the exact opposite, that four-way stops should for the most part become roundabouts, and that's it. And actually, just four-way stops between two-lane roads, once you start adding lanes it gets too complicated. In Spain, basically everything is a roundabout, so much so that when the roads are big enough they have lights within the roundabout. That's way too much IMO.

brc 11y ago

Light traffic residential areas are a perfect place for them. There's nothing more annoying than observing a stop sign in an empty road. I have roundabout near me and when there is no traffic on the roundabout you just drive through it. The residential roundabouts have only a slightly raised centre so you can drive through in almost a straight line. Late at night when there is no traffic it saves having to stop at all.

foobarian 11y ago
I wonder if it would be cheaper to install "Rolling Stop" signs.

textingplan 11y ago

I remember when they installed one out in Littleton (suburban Denver) - it flows traffic spectacularly but it took years, maybe even a decade for people to get used to it. I once came upon it and found a full size four door sedan in the (raised) island in the middle with four befuddled teenagers standing around shaking their heads. They had plowed into the traffic circle straight ahead, jumped the raised embankment and landed right in the center island.

brc 11y ago
But the roundabout saved them. If they were not paying attention, as clearly they weren't, then they could have had a collision in the centre of an intersection. Better to end up in the he Center than t-boning a car.

knappe 11y ago

Some of the most egregious roundabouts I've ran (heh) into have been in Aspen. They're right after you get off 70 (ie going 65/70 mph) and are often overgrown with bushes and trees. I'm all for roundabouts, I think when done right they're great, but I don't know what they were thinking when putting these in. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6439352,-106.3776606,248m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6439352,-106.3776606,248m/da... (2008 footage) https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6277372,-106.4200775,185m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6277372,-106.4200775,185m/da...

lisper 11y ago
That's actually Vail, not Aspen.
- knappe 11y ago
  Yeah, you're right. I had the maps right, but name wrong.

enjo 11y ago

They just installed a pair on the new Pecos bridge over 70. Those are really nice uses of roundabouts, so maybe we're starting to "get it"?

seanalltogether 11y ago
Yes, I was going to mention the only one that really works well is that pecos roundabout since it's actually solving a real traffic problem.

shawkinaw 11y ago

I think the exact opposite, that four-way stops should for the most part become roundabouts, and that's it. And actually, just four-way stops between two-lane roads, once you start adding lanes it gets too complicated. In Spain, basically everything is a roundabout, so much so that when the roads are big enough they have lights within the roundabout. That's way too much IMO.