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I'm a total newbie at chess... but what's the problem with promoting to a queen?

by monochromatic 11y ago

llambda 11y ago
Stalemate.
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rtkwe 11y ago
If white promotes to Queen there are no legal moves for any of blacks' pieces because all the pawns are blocked and the King cannot move into check. It's a stalemate at that point and a draw.
- rza 11y ago
  Actually, wouldn't it be that the black King would just capture the Queen?
  - rtkwe 11y ago
    What moves do you see leading to that? The king is at C7 and the Queen is at A8 in the video. They king can't do anything. The whole reason to under promote is for white to avoid stalemate when he/she has a winning checkmate. The only other moves are after white pawn b7 would be to just run the king out of the fork (legal) but then black's whole position collapses and white just cleans up the same as if black plays king B8. Once the king is tucked in and the D file pawns are blocked he can ONLY move to C7. If he moves out of the fork earlier to C7 or D8 he still loses the rook and the two pawns are still trapped. Against white's D pawn. edit: We're also talking about this puzzle instead of the original. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKtG-8TwI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKtG-8TwI0 Which is different and doesn't use old rule loop holes.
  - ColinWright 11y ago
    As I said elsewhere, you might be responding to a different puzzle (the original) from the one now being discussed (from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10240289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10240289 )
    - rtkwe 11y ago
      Didn't think about that being the reason so many people are talking about capturing the queen.
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- ColinWright 11y ago
  You might be responding to a different puzzle (the original) from the one now being discussed (from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10240289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10240289 )

I'm a total newbie at chess... but what's the problem with promoting to a queen?

llambda 11y ago

Stalemate.

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rtkwe 11y ago

If white promotes to Queen there are no legal moves for any of blacks' pieces because all the pawns are blocked and the King cannot move into check. It's a stalemate at that point and a draw.

rza 11y ago
Actually, wouldn't it be that the black King would just capture the Queen?
- rtkwe 11y ago
  What moves do you see leading to that? The king is at C7 and the Queen is at A8 in the video. They king can't do anything. The whole reason to under promote is for white to avoid stalemate when he/she has a winning checkmate. The only other moves are after white pawn b7 would be to just run the king out of the fork (legal) but then black's whole position collapses and white just cleans up the same as if black plays king B8. Once the king is tucked in and the D file pawns are blocked he can ONLY move to C7. If he moves out of the fork earlier to C7 or D8 he still loses the rook and the two pawns are still trapped. Against white's D pawn. edit: We're also talking about this puzzle instead of the original. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKtG-8TwI0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKtG-8TwI0 Which is different and doesn't use old rule loop holes.
- ColinWright 11y ago
  As I said elsewhere, you might be responding to a different puzzle (the original) from the one now being discussed (from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10240289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10240289 )
  - rtkwe 11y ago
    Didn't think about that being the reason so many people are talking about capturing the queen.

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ColinWright 11y ago
You might be responding to a different puzzle (the original) from the one now being discussed (from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10240289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10240289 )