I've heard stories about this for years, there are some choice comments about it by Thomas Lord in this recent thread: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3696

I've heard stories about this for years, there are some choice comments about it by Thomas Lord in this recent thread: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3696 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3696 I can't find it right now, but there was also an old flamewar (can't remember if it was public or just a public recounting) between RMS and Steve Jobs over NeXT's Objective-C frontend.