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A lot of people are criticizing the author but I know much less about installing things on Linux and quite quickly managed to install another, more conventional

A lot of people are criticizing the author but I know much less about installing things on Linux and quite quickly managed to install another, more conventional forum without any of the problems he mentioned. I just copied the files into a folder, created a database, ran an install script (not as root) and everything worked. Still not ideal but much easier. Why should installing software require some kind of expert? Why didn't the developers solve that problem themselves so every user can just use it easily. This isn't limited to web apps, it's most open source software. The authors don't put effort into making it easy even though they're the ones who are best positioned to both understand it and provide the greatest benefit by saving everybody else from repeating the same struggle.

dikaiosune 11y ago
From the developers' INSTALL file: "Hosting Rails applications is complicated. Even if you already have Postgres, Redis and Ruby installed on your server, you still need to worry about running and monitoring your Sidekiq and Rails processes. Additionally, our Docker install comes bundled with a web-based GUI that makes upgrading to new versions of Discourse as easy as clicking a button." The basic install guide is a bit lengthy, but amounts to writing these commands: ssh root@machine.address.of.choice wget -qO- https://get.docker.com/ | sh mkdir /var/discourse git clone https://github.com/discourse/discourse_docker.git /var/discourse cd /var/discourse cp samples/standalone.yml containers/app.yml nano containers/app.yml ./launcher bootstrap app ./launcher start app There's definitely some extra configuration that has to take place between these steps, but it seems to me that they've gone through a lot of trouble to make it easy for their users. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that it requires an expert to install Discourse -- it only requires one when you have a very unconventional build toolchain on your Linux box and refuse to use Docker (the officially supported deployment method).
- Asbostos 11y ago
  OK, I understand now.

dikaiosune 11y ago

From the developers' INSTALL file: "Hosting Rails applications is complicated. Even if you already have Postgres, Redis and Ruby installed on your server, you still need to worry about running and monitoring your Sidekiq and Rails processes. Additionally, our Docker install comes bundled with a web-based GUI that makes upgrading to new versions of Discourse as easy as clicking a button." The basic install guide is a bit lengthy, but amounts to writing these commands: ssh root@machine.address.of.choice wget -qO- https://get.docker.com/ | sh mkdir /var/discourse git clone https://github.com/discourse/discourse_docker.git /var/discourse cd /var/discourse cp samples/standalone.yml containers/app.yml nano containers/app.yml ./launcher bootstrap app ./launcher start app There's definitely some extra configuration that has to take place between these steps, but it seems to me that they've gone through a lot of trouble to make it easy for their users. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that it requires an expert to install Discourse -- it only requires one when you have a very unconventional build toolchain on your Linux box and refuse to use Docker (the officially supported deployment method).

Asbostos 11y ago
OK, I understand now.