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Feels like that what I've tried for years. But your comment is the automatic response I get for any wording I use. So I've defaulted to thinking it's a prejudic

by tajen 11y ago

Feels like that what I've tried for years. But your comment is the automatic response I get for any wording I use. So I've defaulted to thinking it's a prejudice from the listener. When is the last time you've discussed economy with someone who doesn't agree with you and didn't take it as condescending? and, bonus point, what did the guy say/not say?

DanBC 11y ago
> economics with less educated people, The "less educated people" is going to cause you problems. You probably need to find a different way to phrase that.
- GauntletWizard 11y ago
  Yes. The correct way to phrase it is "Fucking worthless morons who would be dead if not for the shitty welfare state".
  - dang 11y ago
    > "Fucking worthless morons who would be dead if not for the shitty welfare state" This comment breaks the HN guidelines. There's no legitimate point that needs to be made that way. Please comment civilly and substantively, or not at all.
toothbrush 11y ago
I mean this in the friendliest spirit possible, but if literally everyone you meet feels you are condescending, perhaps some of them are right?
eropple 11y ago
As it happens, I occasionally rub elbows with folks who aren't particularly highly educated. I don't have much trouble discussing stuff like economics with them, or with technically-educated and economically-ignorant people, or with my 17-year-old brother who has no real grounding in any of it. All it takes is patience and empathy. And it's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing; I almost never agree with, say, my father on anything economic or political, but it's not condescending, even if it gets heated. Reading your posts, the way write (and, I would bet, talk) comes off as if you think everybody is an idiot and/or is out to get you. I am not unsympathetic, because I certainly have my moments of jerkassery (plenty of 'em around here, and I'm not proud of them), but dude, look inward. I mean, even what I would bet you think is innocuous isn't: why not ask a question in good faith instead of imperiously assuming anybody gives a damn about your "bonus points"? And the benighted-white-male thing is really, really not a good look, FWIW.

by tajen 11y ago

DanBC 11y ago

> economics with less educated people, The "less educated people" is going to cause you problems. You probably need to find a different way to phrase that.

GauntletWizard 11y ago
Yes. The correct way to phrase it is "Fucking worthless morons who would be dead if not for the shitty welfare state".
- dang 11y ago
  > "Fucking worthless morons who would be dead if not for the shitty welfare state" This comment breaks the HN guidelines. There's no legitimate point that needs to be made that way. Please comment civilly and substantively, or not at all.

toothbrush 11y ago

I mean this in the friendliest spirit possible, but if literally everyone you meet feels you are condescending, perhaps some of them are right?

eropple 11y ago

As it happens, I occasionally rub elbows with folks who aren't particularly highly educated. I don't have much trouble discussing stuff like economics with them, or with technically-educated and economically-ignorant people, or with my 17-year-old brother who has no real grounding in any of it. All it takes is patience and empathy. And it's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing; I almost never agree with, say, my father on anything economic or political, but it's not condescending, even if it gets heated. Reading your posts, the way write (and, I would bet, talk) comes off as if you think everybody is an idiot and/or is out to get you. I am not unsympathetic, because I certainly have my moments of jerkassery (plenty of 'em around here, and I'm not proud of them), but dude, look inward. I mean, even what I would bet you think is innocuous isn't: why not ask a question in good faith instead of imperiously assuming anybody gives a damn about your "bonus points"? And the benighted-white-male thing is really, really not a good look, FWIW.