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I think this discussion could get convoluted really quickly, because I bet 100% of the companies in the Fortune 500 have a different definition of what their "e
by rnovak 11y ago
I think this discussion could get convoluted really quickly, because I bet 100% of the companies in the Fortune 500 have a different definition of what their "enterprise" network consists of, and how it's organized.
I can say that I used to work for one, and our departments' network was literally air gapped (not joking). Internal systems could not reach out, and no one could reach in. It was impossible for us to work remotely, because even a VPN wasn't set up. There was no physical connectivity.
But there's a difference between Hacking Team and every company on the Fortune 500: Hacking Team was in the Exploit business, they literally made money selling weaponized exploits to US enemies, and possibly allies.
If anything, I think that's literally the NSA's directive in collecting foreign intelligence.
Meaning, I believe if there was one foreign business that the NSA would spy on (and lets face it, I don't know that many), I think Hacking Team would absolutely be at the top of their list, purely for logical reasons.
But.....I also completely admit that my statement was an assumption, a "bet". I'm not guaranteeing anything, and I really don't care. I'm just over here, arm-chair quarterbacking this shit, haha.
- tptacek 11y agoI've done in the life immediately previous to my current one a fair bit of enterprise netpen work, and I have never seen a large enterprise network that had anything effectively airgapped. Getting onto a single desktop, in my experience, is virtually a gameover guarantee for any reasonable definition of "gameover".
- cpach 11y agoNo data diodes or equipment like that?