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We do that but Ad-blockers block even those ads. We have our own text-based adds like Google Adsense text ads which are just <div> tags and those get filtered

We do that but Ad-blockers block even those ads. We have our own text-based adds like Google Adsense text ads which are just <div> tags and those get filtered out as well.

totalrobe 11y ago
Really? How does content in <div> tags not get filtered out as well, or does it?
- ivank 11y ago
  The filter list will block the div by id, class, or by its position among some other containing element.
  - knd775 11y ago
    But how does it know that it is an ad? Some advanced heuristics?
    - jordigh 11y ago
      Filter lists are curated by humans. It's an arms race between two smart groups.
    - ivank 11y ago
      It's all manual. Someone sees it and submits the item into the EasyList blocklist: https://easylist.adblockplus.org/ https://easylist.adblockplus.org/ - it looks like http://forums.lanik.us/ http://forums.lanik.us/ is used for reporting items to block or unblock.
  - zeeshanm 11y ago
    Probably adblockers keep a dictionary of filters for blocking native ads.
jordigh 11y ago
I work hard to block all ads, including those. It's super helpful if you can provide an HTML class to your divs so I can more easily block them, but I will keep on working on blocking all ads by all means possible. I'm thinking of building an ad extension that doesn't show the ads but reports to js that the ad is still there, so that websites think that ad is there. It might also help for some cases to download the ad contents but not display them. I do not think this is any more immoral than you trying to make my computer display things I do not want. If you want my money, just ask for it. Don't tell me via ads to give my money to somone else. Google Contributor is a promising experiment. Bitcoin micropayments are also convenient.
- johnward 11y ago
  Stop browsing ad supported content then. It's a simple solution that works for everyone involved. Everyone says "i'd happily pay" but few put their money where their mouth is. For the HN downvoters why is choosing not to consume the ad supported content so bad?
  - skaplun 11y ago
    You dont know if target is ad supported when you click on a link.
    - johnward 11y ago
      I'll give you that argument. Even though people continue to return to those same sites. Then complain about sites that try to implement other means of monetization like paywalls.
  - freehunter 11y ago
    That's like saying "stop downloading F2P games" or "don't support the RIAA/MPAA". There are really just so few sites that aren't ad supported. "It's a simple solution that works for everyone involved." It's literally none of those things. It's not simple, it's not a solution, and it doesn't work for anyone involved.
pekk 11y ago
I don't block your same-domain ads because my concern about ads is mostly controlling what I am connecting to, and avoiding severe nuisances like sudden popups and stupid flash movies playing loudly out of nowhere.

We do that but Ad-blockers block even those ads. We have our own text-based adds like Google Adsense text ads which are just <div> tags and those get filtered out as well.

totalrobe 11y ago

Really? How does content in <div> tags not get filtered out as well, or does it?

ivank 11y ago
The filter list will block the div by id, class, or by its position among some other containing element.
- knd775 11y ago
  But how does it know that it is an ad? Some advanced heuristics?
  - jordigh 11y ago
    Filter lists are curated by humans. It's an arms race between two smart groups.
  - ivank 11y ago
    It's all manual. Someone sees it and submits the item into the EasyList blocklist: https://easylist.adblockplus.org/ https://easylist.adblockplus.org/ - it looks like http://forums.lanik.us/ http://forums.lanik.us/ is used for reporting items to block or unblock.
- zeeshanm 11y ago
  Probably adblockers keep a dictionary of filters for blocking native ads.

jordigh 11y ago

I work hard to block all ads, including those. It's super helpful if you can provide an HTML class to your divs so I can more easily block them, but I will keep on working on blocking all ads by all means possible. I'm thinking of building an ad extension that doesn't show the ads but reports to js that the ad is still there, so that websites think that ad is there. It might also help for some cases to download the ad contents but not display them. I do not think this is any more immoral than you trying to make my computer display things I do not want. If you want my money, just ask for it. Don't tell me via ads to give my money to somone else. Google Contributor is a promising experiment. Bitcoin micropayments are also convenient.

johnward 11y ago
Stop browsing ad supported content then. It's a simple solution that works for everyone involved. Everyone says "i'd happily pay" but few put their money where their mouth is. For the HN downvoters why is choosing not to consume the ad supported content so bad?
- skaplun 11y ago
  You dont know if target is ad supported when you click on a link.
  - johnward 11y ago
    I'll give you that argument. Even though people continue to return to those same sites. Then complain about sites that try to implement other means of monetization like paywalls.
- freehunter 11y ago
  That's like saying "stop downloading F2P games" or "don't support the RIAA/MPAA". There are really just so few sites that aren't ad supported. "It's a simple solution that works for everyone involved." It's literally none of those things. It's not simple, it's not a solution, and it doesn't work for anyone involved.

pekk 11y ago

I don't block your same-domain ads because my concern about ads is mostly controlling what I am connecting to, and avoiding severe nuisances like sudden popups and stupid flash movies playing loudly out of nowhere.