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These shameless plugs are getting really annoying. We know about you, we know CloudFlare and Let's Encrypt are kinda competitors with their free certificates, b
by kolev 11y ago
These shameless plugs are getting really annoying. We know about you, we know CloudFlare and Let's Encrypt are kinda competitors with their free certificates, but you don't have to comment on each post about them. Really, stop annoying us - it doesn't do you any good, honestly!
- schoen 11y agoIn this case, the previous commenter was explicitly asking for advice about how to get certificates more conveniently today, so the replies about existing services that can do so seem quite relevant.
- kolev 11y agoOh, the commenter asked for the overly expensive EV type? Let's not be the devil's advocate. This is the wrong way to advertise. This is not the beginners corner. You advertise once, twice, three times, people remember, you can search HN - no need to annoy people till the end of the world. The company seems desperate for new business this way anyway.
- kolev 11y agoIt's like trying to sell a Ferrari to a guy who's looking for a regular car...
- twothamendment 11y agoMaybe so, but you know every regular guy driving a regular car would rather have a Ferrari and might even spend time looking at them even though he can't buy one.
- kolev 11y agoYou're wrong. EV is a scam. I can afford to buy EV for most of my sites, but I don't do it. Because consumers don't really care. Even HN doesn't have an EV! Ferrari is what everybody wants, EV is a different story! And stop downvoting all my comments - it shows your subpar human material. Downvote my main point and stop right there. No need to go aggressive and try to silence me and not comment further, because you will "punish" me further as well.
- cpach 11y agoAs per the guidelines, please keep discussions civil on HN and please don't complain about being downvoted. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- kolev 11y agoI am civil, but those who can't help the sick urge to downvote every single comment of mine although they all represent the same points are not civilized.
- dang 11y agoNo, cpach is right. You can't post comments like "it shows your subpar human material" to Hacker News. Personal attacks are not allowed here, regardless of whether someone downvoted unfairly. There's also the guideline specifically asking you not to go on about being downvoted. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- kolev 11y agoMost are just suggestions, not law. I stand by what I said. Being vindictive is not civilized. I didn't make personal attacks - I have no idea who downvoted me.
- dang 11y agoPersonal attacks can be anonymous, so that's a red herring. And HN's guidelines may not be laws, but neither are they optional—we ban accounts that violate them repeatedly. It's not hard to see what kind of discourse we're going for here. What's hard is to stick to it when you're feeling that someone is subpar. On the internet, human biases yield a strong tendency to feel that way about others, and we all need to be disciplined about counteracting it. If you can't or won't take up the task, you're not welcome to comment here. That doesn't mean you have to abide by it perfectly. I can't, and doubt anyone can. It means that when we slip we need to recognize our error and correct it, not defensively dismiss the information.
- mindcrime 11y agoThese shameless plugs are getting really annoying. We know about you I for one had never heard of these guys and appreciate the mention. Besides, as far as I can recall, it's never been considered problematic to promote your own service on HN as long as the mention is topical and done tastefully.
- readme 11y agoWho's us? I didn't know you represented me. I actually had never heard of this and think it's pretty cool.
- kolev 11y agoGrab a dictionary - there's "us", and there's "all".