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There's always room to be pedantic but sometimes common sense wins. There's no way in hell he has the rights to publish detailed character drawings of every hi

by tacos 11y ago

There's always room to be pedantic but sometimes common sense wins. There's no way in hell he has the rights to publish detailed character drawings of every hit DC character. And the odds of him getting ANYTHING cleared through Warner legally are below zero. This is common sense to anyone who's lived in Los Angeles for more than week. It's obviously the typical "hope nobody notices!" status quo that lurks behind much of what's on the web. A quick scan of the comments here on HN reveals the typical "it's on the web, it must be good for all involved! And now I'm gonna buy some comics and watch a movie, too!" exuberance. I've stated nothing about my opinion on those matters other than I post here and I'm also an artist -- so you might guess where I lie on the spectrum. That said, the decade-old Cory Doctorow boilerplate arguments obviously did not pan out so we should probably stop using them now and figure out a way to sort this mess out. Unfortunately if your first instinct wasn't "geeze, that sure is a copyright violation" you're unlikely to be able to close deals with those corporate shitheads.

Tenhundfeld 11y ago
>>Presented here are pages from the highly sought after, but never published for sale, 1982 DC Comics Style Guide. These images were used for marketing and licensing while also serving as reference material for other artists. It's not so obvious to me he's breaking any law. Yeah, he doesn't have rights to publish detailed character drawings, yadda yadda. But is that what he's doing? He's posting digitized excerpts from a freely distributed, 33 year old style guide. Is that the same thing? Those are sincere questions. You seem to know a lot more about this than I do. I honestly don't know what terms would come with that style guide in 1982. I know some modern "style guides", say mobile HCI guidelines, are copyrighted but can be redistributed.
kbenson 11y ago
> There's no way in hell he has the rights to publish detailed character drawings of every hit DC character. And the odds of him getting ANYTHING cleared through Warner legally are below zero. This is common sense to anyone who's lived in Los Angeles for more than week. Well, it's great that you think the rest of the HN community has lived in LA for a week and therefore have this common sense. Does it change your estimation of the situation to know that it's been online in multiple locations[1][2] almost three weeks? Those sources all reference facebook, so it's been up for a while. Actually, based on that fact that it's all over the web, and has been for weeks without uproar, and that it was originally commissioned as both a guide for in-house artists and to be given to to licensee artists and outside artists to make sure they got the look right, I imagine there's not a problem with it being in the public. I think since it and information about it has been widely available[3] for a while now, and I'm not finding any info on Warner Bros. or DCE complaining or requesting it be removed, it was with permission, or he had some rights. Keep in mind it was never for sale. I think at this point, the onus is on you to prove your common sense actually makes sense. 1: http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/08/the-entire-1982-dc-comics-style-guide-online-and-amazing/ http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/08/the-entire-1982... 2: http://www.openculture.com/2015/08/the-1982-dc-comics-style-guide-is-online.html http://www.openculture.com/2015/08/the-1982-dc-comics-style-... 3: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=1982+DC+Comics+Style+Guide http://lmgtfy.com/?q=1982+DC+Comics+Style+Guide

by tacos 11y ago

Tenhundfeld 11y ago

>>Presented here are pages from the highly sought after, but never published for sale, 1982 DC Comics Style Guide. These images were used for marketing and licensing while also serving as reference material for other artists. It's not so obvious to me he's breaking any law. Yeah, he doesn't have rights to publish detailed character drawings, yadda yadda. But is that what he's doing? He's posting digitized excerpts from a freely distributed, 33 year old style guide. Is that the same thing? Those are sincere questions. You seem to know a lot more about this than I do. I honestly don't know what terms would come with that style guide in 1982. I know some modern "style guides", say mobile HCI guidelines, are copyrighted but can be redistributed.

kbenson 11y ago

> There's no way in hell he has the rights to publish detailed character drawings of every hit DC character. And the odds of him getting ANYTHING cleared through Warner legally are below zero. This is common sense to anyone who's lived in Los Angeles for more than week. Well, it's great that you think the rest of the HN community has lived in LA for a week and therefore have this common sense. Does it change your estimation of the situation to know that it's been online in multiple locations[1][2] almost three weeks? Those sources all reference facebook, so it's been up for a while. Actually, based on that fact that it's all over the web, and has been for weeks without uproar, and that it was originally commissioned as both a guide for in-house artists and to be given to to licensee artists and outside artists to make sure they got the look right, I imagine there's not a problem with it being in the public. I think since it and information about it has been widely available[3] for a while now, and I'm not finding any info on Warner Bros. or DCE complaining or requesting it be removed, it was with permission, or he had some rights. Keep in mind it was never for sale. I think at this point, the onus is on you to prove your common sense actually makes sense. 1: http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/08/the-entire-1982-dc-comics-style-guide-online-and-amazing/ http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2015/08/the-entire-1982... 2: http://www.openculture.com/2015/08/the-1982-dc-comics-style-guide-is-online.html http://www.openculture.com/2015/08/the-1982-dc-comics-style-... 3: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=1982+DC+Comics+Style+Guide http://lmgtfy.com/?q=1982+DC+Comics+Style+Guide