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And how much has 'Yandex', whatever that is, contributed to Android? Android exists and is relatively free (as in beer and speech) because it drives traffic to

by aianus 11y ago

And how much has 'Yandex', whatever that is, contributed to Android? Android exists and is relatively free (as in beer and speech) because it drives traffic to Google. If you don't like it, write your own mobile operating system from scratch (good luck). Edit: actually, they'd only need their own app store if I understand the terms correctly.

dublinben 11y ago
Despite being open source, Google does not really accept submissions of code from third parties. Yandex does in fact have their own app store, but many apps are only published on the Google Play Store.
- bitmapbrother 11y ago
  This is untrue. Android has has many contributions from third parties. Samsung, Sony, LG, etc have all contributed to the AOSP project.
- Oletros 11y ago
  > Despite being open source, Google does not really accept submissions of code from third parties. Source for this?
chlestakoff 11y ago
"'Yandex', whatever that is" - Yandex is a $10B public company, a legitimate innovator and the top internet player in Russia. Ever heard of that country, or is it yet another "whatever that is" for you?
- aianus 11y ago
  If they were so great they wouldn't have to force themselves onto consumers by bundling their crapware into carrier sponsored phones. Not to mention $10B is probably less than the amount Google alone has spent developing and promoting Android. Please explain how their direct competitor should be entitled to piggy back on that work for free. Edit: apparently they even have their own 'Yandex Browser' based on Chromium. Shameless.
  - guard-of-terra 11y ago
    "Please explain how their direct competitor should be entitled to piggy back on that work" Nobody forced Google to release Android under open licenses and by doing so they certainly didn't get green light to abuse monopoly. "I will open source my software and see that it only does me good" - that's not how it works.
    - aianus 11y ago
      Sure, Android was released under open licenses and Yandex is free to use it. However, Play Store is not open source or released under an open license so if you want to use Android to spread your crapware you don't get to complain that Google doesn't want to license you their app store. They have no moral ground to stand on.
      - guard-of-terra 11y ago
        "you don't get to complain that Google doesn't want to license you their app store" Did they?
  - piyush_soni 11y ago
    Ignoring other things, there is no shame in forking and developing an Open Source project on one's own (license permitting, which the Chromium's BSD license does). That's the whole purpose of Open Source projects.
    - aianus 11y ago
      It's legal, sure, but it's shameless and wrong to take an open source project built by your competitor, change the branding to yours, bundle it with crapware, and pretend you're innovating.
      - piyush_soni 11y ago
        That's what I was saying. Open source projects are _meant to be_ forked and rebranded. There is nothing to be ashamed of here, license granting.

by aianus 11y ago

dublinben 11y ago

Despite being open source, Google does not really accept submissions of code from third parties. Yandex does in fact have their own app store, but many apps are only published on the Google Play Store.

bitmapbrother 11y ago
This is untrue. Android has has many contributions from third parties. Samsung, Sony, LG, etc have all contributed to the AOSP project.
Oletros 11y ago
> Despite being open source, Google does not really accept submissions of code from third parties. Source for this?

chlestakoff 11y ago

"'Yandex', whatever that is" - Yandex is a $10B public company, a legitimate innovator and the top internet player in Russia. Ever heard of that country, or is it yet another "whatever that is" for you?

aianus 11y ago
If they were so great they wouldn't have to force themselves onto consumers by bundling their crapware into carrier sponsored phones. Not to mention $10B is probably less than the amount Google alone has spent developing and promoting Android. Please explain how their direct competitor should be entitled to piggy back on that work for free. Edit: apparently they even have their own 'Yandex Browser' based on Chromium. Shameless.
- guard-of-terra 11y ago
  "Please explain how their direct competitor should be entitled to piggy back on that work" Nobody forced Google to release Android under open licenses and by doing so they certainly didn't get green light to abuse monopoly. "I will open source my software and see that it only does me good" - that's not how it works.
  - aianus 11y ago
    Sure, Android was released under open licenses and Yandex is free to use it. However, Play Store is not open source or released under an open license so if you want to use Android to spread your crapware you don't get to complain that Google doesn't want to license you their app store. They have no moral ground to stand on.
    - guard-of-terra 11y ago
      "you don't get to complain that Google doesn't want to license you their app store" Did they?
- piyush_soni 11y ago
  Ignoring other things, there is no shame in forking and developing an Open Source project on one's own (license permitting, which the Chromium's BSD license does). That's the whole purpose of Open Source projects.
  - aianus 11y ago
    It's legal, sure, but it's shameless and wrong to take an open source project built by your competitor, change the branding to yours, bundle it with crapware, and pretend you're innovating.
    - piyush_soni 11y ago
      That's what I was saying. Open source projects are _meant to be_ forked and rebranded. There is nothing to be ashamed of here, license granting.