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Another example of why HN posting time matters https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10200641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10200641

by Danilka 11y ago

dheera 11y ago
I feel like what matters more (unfortunately) is that you know a bunch of people who you can get to immediately vote you up. What might be more interesting is if HN used Facebook login and its front page ranking algorithm only counted votes from people outside your friend network.
- Shivetya 11y ago
  Oh please no, do not link it to facebook. If anything, analysis of past voting should give a clue to accounts who game the system.
- DanBC 11y ago
  HN does have some vote ring detection. I have no idea ho effective it is.
- city41 11y ago
  As far as I can tell this is a completely unsolved problem. Reddit has the same issue, and now Super Mario Maker on the Wii U has the same problem. Anytime there's a plethora of content and it relies on user interaction to bubble up, a lot of good content is missed.
- unimpressive 11y ago
  I'm fairly sure that HN uses lots of manual human monitoring to make sure that good content doesn't slip through the cracks. In fact, most of the secret sauce of HN seems to be real-human intervention along with making that intervention invisible. When the mods boost up a story nobody really notices because it looks like the 'normal' way a story gets boosted. Bans aren't really public or announced, etc. And none of that is criticism, it works really damn well. Moreover, the HN moderation explicitly 'owns' the community in the sense that it's their house and their rules which helps because it doesn't give people a sense of entitlement about representation. (Having some experience with the matter, nothing kills you more dead than people getting entitled and demanding a 'reasonable explanation' for every descision you make. Everybody wants theirs and it means you can't actually take any action to improve things without wading through lots of crap.)

Another example of why HN posting time matters https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10200641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10200641

by Danilka 11y ago

Another example of why HN posting time matters https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10200641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10200641

dheera 11y ago

I feel like what matters more (unfortunately) is that you know a bunch of people who you can get to immediately vote you up. What might be more interesting is if HN used Facebook login and its front page ranking algorithm only counted votes from people outside your friend network.

Shivetya 11y ago
Oh please no, do not link it to facebook. If anything, analysis of past voting should give a clue to accounts who game the system.
DanBC 11y ago
HN does have some vote ring detection. I have no idea ho effective it is.
city41 11y ago
As far as I can tell this is a completely unsolved problem. Reddit has the same issue, and now Super Mario Maker on the Wii U has the same problem. Anytime there's a plethora of content and it relies on user interaction to bubble up, a lot of good content is missed.
unimpressive 11y ago
I'm fairly sure that HN uses lots of manual human monitoring to make sure that good content doesn't slip through the cracks. In fact, most of the secret sauce of HN seems to be real-human intervention along with making that intervention invisible. When the mods boost up a story nobody really notices because it looks like the 'normal' way a story gets boosted. Bans aren't really public or announced, etc. And none of that is criticism, it works really damn well. Moreover, the HN moderation explicitly 'owns' the community in the sense that it's their house and their rules which helps because it doesn't give people a sense of entitlement about representation. (Having some experience with the matter, nothing kills you more dead than people getting entitled and demanding a 'reasonable explanation' for every descision you make. Everybody wants theirs and it means you can't actually take any action to improve things without wading through lots of crap.)