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Yep, it is the perfect explanation for why the Government can't be trusted with "master keys" of any kind.

by fweespeech 11y ago

wnevets 11y ago
like the "master keys" for the nuclear arsenal?
- deleted 11y ago
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- Fargren 11y ago
  They are not master keys if they are the only keys and they only open the lock they were built for.
  - newjersey 11y ago
    Exactly. This is only a problem if the locks were publicly available which they should be in case of insecure technologies like the clipper chip. I guess the physical equivalent is a knox box as illustrated here https://www.rsaconference.com/writable/presentations/file_upload/exp-w21_exp-w21.pdf https://www.rsaconference.com/writable/presentations/file_up...
- malloci 11y ago
  Bringing up the protection of the nuclear arsenal only enforces the fact that an encryption "master key" controlled by the government isn't such a great idea: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/launch-code-for-us-nukes-was-00000000-for-20-years/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/launch-code-for-u... http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20427730/ns/us_news-military/t/air-force-official-fired-after-nukes-fly-over-us/#.Vfb0Xbfuf1I http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20427730/ns/us_news-military/t/air... http://www.aol.com/article/2014/11/03/2-nuclear-commanders-fired-another-disciplined/20988136/ http://www.aol.com/article/2014/11/03/2-nuclear-commanders-f... http://www.rt.com/usa/usaf-general-drunken-women-moscow-529/ http://www.rt.com/usa/usaf-general-drunken-women-moscow-529/
  - avar 11y ago
    You left out the worst incident I know of: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/12/us/north-carolina-nuclear-bomb-drop/ http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/12/us/north-carolina-nuclear-... The US was one arming switch away from nuking North Carolina in 1961. This and a bunch of other really scary nuclear-related accidents are covered in Command & Control: http://www.amazon.com/Command-Control-Damascus-Accident-Illusion/dp/0143125788 http://www.amazon.com/Command-Control-Damascus-Accident-Illu...
- monocasa 11y ago
  The master keys for the nuclear arsenal were "00000000" for much of the cold war. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/nuclear-missile-code-00000000-cold-war_n_4386784.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/nuclear-missile-cod...

Yep, it is the perfect explanation for why the Government can't be trusted with "master keys" of any kind.

wnevets 11y ago

like the "master keys" for the nuclear arsenal?

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Fargren 11y ago
They are not master keys if they are the only keys and they only open the lock they were built for.
- newjersey 11y ago
  Exactly. This is only a problem if the locks were publicly available which they should be in case of insecure technologies like the clipper chip. I guess the physical equivalent is a knox box as illustrated here https://www.rsaconference.com/writable/presentations/file_upload/exp-w21_exp-w21.pdf https://www.rsaconference.com/writable/presentations/file_up...
malloci 11y ago
Bringing up the protection of the nuclear arsenal only enforces the fact that an encryption "master key" controlled by the government isn't such a great idea: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/launch-code-for-us-nukes-was-00000000-for-20-years/ http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/launch-code-for-u... http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20427730/ns/us_news-military/t/air-force-official-fired-after-nukes-fly-over-us/#.Vfb0Xbfuf1I http://www.nbcnews.com/id/20427730/ns/us_news-military/t/air... http://www.aol.com/article/2014/11/03/2-nuclear-commanders-fired-another-disciplined/20988136/ http://www.aol.com/article/2014/11/03/2-nuclear-commanders-f... http://www.rt.com/usa/usaf-general-drunken-women-moscow-529/ http://www.rt.com/usa/usaf-general-drunken-women-moscow-529/
- avar 11y ago
  You left out the worst incident I know of: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/12/us/north-carolina-nuclear-bomb-drop/ http://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/12/us/north-carolina-nuclear-... The US was one arming switch away from nuking North Carolina in 1961. This and a bunch of other really scary nuclear-related accidents are covered in Command & Control: http://www.amazon.com/Command-Control-Damascus-Accident-Illusion/dp/0143125788 http://www.amazon.com/Command-Control-Damascus-Accident-Illu...
monocasa 11y ago
The master keys for the nuclear arsenal were "00000000" for much of the cold war. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/nuclear-missile-code-00000000-cold-war_n_4386784.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/nuclear-missile-cod...