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Non it's not a non-sequitur as I am not replying to the article but to another poster. My reply is relevant to theirs. The point of the article is that we get c

Non it's not a non-sequitur as I am not replying to the article but to another poster. My reply is relevant to theirs. The point of the article is that we get cultural changes wrong or don't account for changes in culture the way we anticipate changes in technology. The comment I am replying to makes racist generalizations about white people and what the white people and western world are able to imagine. I imagine if one goes to Thailand you would find media and cultural creations that relate to Thai people and their future, or in China the same thing, Chinese people and their future. Would the parent poster make a similar stupid comment about Chinese men can't imagine the future of women or black liberation?

gress 11y ago
So your response was to write a comment filled with obviously racist invective attacking black people in general. Quote: "Maybe if they spent more time DOING things and less time complaining about white people there would be more futurists/engineers/painters/doctors etc instead we have BlackLivesMatter doing die-in's in shopping malls or protesting the deaths of career criminals..." Perhaps the original commenter is accidentally committing a subtle act of prejudice, but you are being overtly racist. Noting that the original commenter may or may not be black, Your choice to attack black people is independent of your concern about the potential prejudice in the original comment. At least this makes it clear where you stand; your comment was not about fighting prejudice.
- ManFromUranus 11y ago
  Pure hyperbole, and incorrect at that, and it's equally clear where you stand. In case you are still reading: The poster I was replying to didn't commit a subtle act of prejudice, they made an overtly racist statement about white men. Then claimed that white men can't envision a future of black liberation. That's literally what they said, I responded to that comment. I am saying that instead of futurism (and other cultural works), the focus of a lot of black people and their effort seems to be civil rights activities. These civil rights activities have an opportunity cost, while you're doing die-ins at the mall you may not have time to write about the future. So therefore we don't have as much of a black vision of the future because they (black people) aren't spending their effort on that. My comment was about fighting prejudice, prejudice against white people. That sort of behavior is totally kosher on the internet and in the mainstream media and it's very PC and fashionable to bash "white people" and their culture (when it's admitted that they even have a culture). I have gotten pretty sick of it.
  - gress 11y ago
    Saying that more black people would be doctors if they complained less is absolutely racist. Do you not see that? You claim oppression is fictional - so I guess it's possible you don't. You say you are pointing at the opportunity costs of protesting oppression. They are only opportunity costs if the oppression is not real - otherwise they may be part of a necessary struggle to obtain opportunity. Do you really think that there is no anti-black racism? You may be fed up with people bashing white people on the internet - I am too. But that is no excuse for making overtly racist statements against black people, a behavior which is certainly counterproductive to what you claim to be your true aim.
    - ManFromUranus 11y ago
      Could I realistically state any justifiable criticism of anything related to black people and not be racist in your book? I am leaning toward no.
      - gress 11y ago
        How do you justify the criticisms you actually did make?

gress 11y ago

So your response was to write a comment filled with obviously racist invective attacking black people in general. Quote: "Maybe if they spent more time DOING things and less time complaining about white people there would be more futurists/engineers/painters/doctors etc instead we have BlackLivesMatter doing die-in's in shopping malls or protesting the deaths of career criminals..." Perhaps the original commenter is accidentally committing a subtle act of prejudice, but you are being overtly racist. Noting that the original commenter may or may not be black, Your choice to attack black people is independent of your concern about the potential prejudice in the original comment. At least this makes it clear where you stand; your comment was not about fighting prejudice.

ManFromUranus 11y ago
Pure hyperbole, and incorrect at that, and it's equally clear where you stand. In case you are still reading: The poster I was replying to didn't commit a subtle act of prejudice, they made an overtly racist statement about white men. Then claimed that white men can't envision a future of black liberation. That's literally what they said, I responded to that comment. I am saying that instead of futurism (and other cultural works), the focus of a lot of black people and their effort seems to be civil rights activities. These civil rights activities have an opportunity cost, while you're doing die-ins at the mall you may not have time to write about the future. So therefore we don't have as much of a black vision of the future because they (black people) aren't spending their effort on that. My comment was about fighting prejudice, prejudice against white people. That sort of behavior is totally kosher on the internet and in the mainstream media and it's very PC and fashionable to bash "white people" and their culture (when it's admitted that they even have a culture). I have gotten pretty sick of it.
- gress 11y ago
  Saying that more black people would be doctors if they complained less is absolutely racist. Do you not see that? You claim oppression is fictional - so I guess it's possible you don't. You say you are pointing at the opportunity costs of protesting oppression. They are only opportunity costs if the oppression is not real - otherwise they may be part of a necessary struggle to obtain opportunity. Do you really think that there is no anti-black racism? You may be fed up with people bashing white people on the internet - I am too. But that is no excuse for making overtly racist statements against black people, a behavior which is certainly counterproductive to what you claim to be your true aim.
  - ManFromUranus 11y ago
    Could I realistically state any justifiable criticism of anything related to black people and not be racist in your book? I am leaning toward no.
    - gress 11y ago
      How do you justify the criticisms you actually did make?