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Same story without paywall: http://www.ibloomberg.net/google-brings-in-chief-for-self-driving-cars/ http://www.ibloomberg.net/google-brings-in-chief-for-self-dr

by edward 11y ago

Same story without paywall: http://www.ibloomberg.net/google-brings-in-chief-for-self-driving-cars/ http://www.ibloomberg.net/google-brings-in-chief-for-self-dr...

jzwinck 11y ago
I was excited to see a non-paywall link, but isn't that entire site blogspam? It's called "iBloomBerg" which is surely a lame riff on the name "Bloomberg" but has nothing to do with Bloomberg. And it doesn't seem to have an "About Us" page. They also wrongly attribute the entire article to Bloomberg when it seems to be originated by the WSJ.
- mcintyre1994 11y ago
  They don't actually attribute the article to Bloomberg the publisher, it's the display name and links to the page[0] for one of their 'authors' who has apparently written over 100,000 articles in the last 2 months. :) [0] http://www.ibloomberg.net/author/thanhcong/ http://www.ibloomberg.net/author/thanhcong/
  - confluence 11y ago
    How is that even possible?
    - dexterdog 11y ago
      Because paywalls give a reason for piracy
psbp 11y ago
A Google redirect also works: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQqQIwAGoVChMIwOLI4732xwIVBxGSCh3lDghZ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fgoogle-brings-in-chief-for-self-driving-cars-1442199840&usg=AFQjCNGAQcoV9poPqRTZNOkKL6E6S_pJsA&sig2=DwunLefna1TxYSjqq-xJdQ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...
- melling 11y ago
  Why is there so much discussion about paywalls on HN? Can someone create a FAQ? The first several comments so far are essentially about the paywall. It's all noise. We need to increase the signal.
  - mholt 11y ago
    Then they should remove the paywall. How are we supposed to discuss the article if we can't read it? This isn't a discussion "about the paywall" - it's just a link so the rest of us can read along.
    - melling 11y ago
      That why we need an FAQ. So everyone who can't figure it out for themselves can read it. I've already explained a couple of times that there are still advantages even if you can't read the original source. Can you figure out what one advantage might be?
  - rafamvc 11y ago
    From the FAQ: Are paywalls ok? It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. In comments, it's ok to ask how to read an article and to help other users do so. But please don't post complaints about paywalls. Those are off topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
    - deleted 11y ago
      [deleted]
      - DanBC 11y ago
        You asked why it's not in a faq. Someone pointed out that it is in a faq, and quoted the faq, and linked the faq. You respond by attacking that poster?

by edward 11y ago

Same story without paywall: http://www.ibloomberg.net/google-brings-in-chief-for-self-driving-cars/ http://www.ibloomberg.net/google-brings-in-chief-for-self-dr...

jzwinck 11y ago

I was excited to see a non-paywall link, but isn't that entire site blogspam? It's called "iBloomBerg" which is surely a lame riff on the name "Bloomberg" but has nothing to do with Bloomberg. And it doesn't seem to have an "About Us" page. They also wrongly attribute the entire article to Bloomberg when it seems to be originated by the WSJ.

mcintyre1994 11y ago
They don't actually attribute the article to Bloomberg the publisher, it's the display name and links to the page[0] for one of their 'authors' who has apparently written over 100,000 articles in the last 2 months. :) [0] http://www.ibloomberg.net/author/thanhcong/ http://www.ibloomberg.net/author/thanhcong/
- confluence 11y ago
  How is that even possible?
  - dexterdog 11y ago
    Because paywalls give a reason for piracy

psbp 11y ago

A Google redirect also works: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQqQIwAGoVChMIwOLI4732xwIVBxGSCh3lDghZ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fgoogle-brings-in-chief-for-self-driving-cars-1442199840&usg=AFQjCNGAQcoV9poPqRTZNOkKL6E6S_pJsA&sig2=DwunLefna1TxYSjqq-xJdQ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&c...

melling 11y ago
Why is there so much discussion about paywalls on HN? Can someone create a FAQ? The first several comments so far are essentially about the paywall. It's all noise. We need to increase the signal.
- mholt 11y ago
  Then they should remove the paywall. How are we supposed to discuss the article if we can't read it? This isn't a discussion "about the paywall" - it's just a link so the rest of us can read along.
  - melling 11y ago
    That why we need an FAQ. So everyone who can't figure it out for themselves can read it. I've already explained a couple of times that there are still advantages even if you can't read the original source. Can you figure out what one advantage might be?
- rafamvc 11y ago
  From the FAQ: Are paywalls ok? It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. In comments, it's ok to ask how to read an article and to help other users do so. But please don't post complaints about paywalls. Those are off topic. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
  - deleted 11y ago
    [deleted]
    - DanBC 11y ago
      You asked why it's not in a faq. Someone pointed out that it is in a faq, and quoted the faq, and linked the faq. You respond by attacking that poster?