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I'm another person who hates running but do it moderately as it's a very efficient form of exercise. I also do intermittent fasting, which also change you lept

• yodsanklai 11y ago
  > I'm another person who hates running but do it moderately as it's a very efficient form of exercise Interesting point of view! Many people run despite the harm it may cause (esp. to their knees and back) because they love to run. But if you remove enjoyment out of the equation, I assume there are other forms of exercises that are safer and as "efficient" as running.
  • fsiefken 11y ago
    That's precisely why I took up swimming to work monofinning recently. Cycling and nordic walking is also better for the joints.
  • fsiefken 11y ago
    That's precisely why I took up swimming to work monofinning recently. Cycling and nordic walking is also better for the joints.
  • dorfsmay 11y ago
    Everything about running is efficient: - you can't cheat and ignore it, you run or you walk (you can coast while biking, you can swim slowly, etc...) - you can open your door and star running. Mist other sports, you need to go somewhere before you start doing the sport (swimming pool, mountain, dojo, etc...) - no other sport I have done build cardio in a few weeks like running does. Keep in mind that I don't try to promote running, I literally hate it, I just enjoy the results given the low time investment.
    • randxx 11y ago
      I wonder how much longer you'll have to run before you stop repeating your "I hate running" mantra.
    • douche 11y ago
      Running isn't terribly efficient. I can walk at the same rate that most people jog, and I use half as much energy.
      • kbenson 11y ago
        The assertion is that it's an efficient exercise, not an efficient form of movement. It's actually an efficient exercise because it's less efficient in terms of movement than alternatives (which were listed).
        • douche 11y ago
          It's boring, painful, and promotes over-use injuries. Most people don't wear proper shoes, or run with proper form, putting extra stress on their joints or striking on their heels. Endurance running isn't great training for anything besides endurance running - any sort of sport-based activity includes lots of short sprints, lateral changes in direction, back-pedaling, jumping, not extended straight-line, moderate-pace running. If pure cardio is what you want, jumping rope is more efficient.
          • dorfsmay 11y ago
            I think jumping rope is even more boring than running + you can cheat by slowing down. I have seriously looked into "running properly" and have tried to run barefoot a lot (which forces you to not heel-strike etc...) but I'm in a cold climate and it physically impossible ot run barefoot in the winter, and I never managed to get used to pebbles! I keep my distance to about ~ 21 km / week max (typically less), which I am thinking is low enough not to do too much damage. All other form of sports you are talking about require me to go somewhere, etc... which burns a lot of time. I enjoy other sports (hiking, swimming, skiing to certain extent, used to sail and do martial arts, ice skating) when I can, but not as regularly, and I'll argue not enough, because of time constraint.
  • terapinterapin 11y ago
    I have found that switching to the "POSE" running regime has eliminated running injuries - not had a running injury in over 10 years, so with good form, running can be safe. Before switching, I had 20+ years of intermittent injuries. For normal people I can only think of skipping with weighted handles that would go beyond running.
  • brianwawok 11y ago
    > Many people run despite the harm it may cause (esp. to their knees and back) There has never been a study to my knowledge that running hurts your knees or back. Any study I have seen shows that it helps your knees, but it may suffer from some selection bias. Remember, just because "common wisdom" says something does not make it true. This is one of those cases.
  • drhodes 11y ago
    Here's an article that cites two studies that show runners suffer from fewer knee issues. > The other U.S. study was from 2013 and involved more than 74,000. The runners reported a lower rate of knee arthritis and a lower risk of needing knee replacement surgery. http://www.solfoot.com/blog/how-to-protect-your-knees-health-running.cfm http://www.solfoot.com/blog/how-to-protect-your-knees-health...
• phkahler 11y ago
  I found that when fasting, if I get hungry a good food substitute is a one to two mile walk. It kills the hunger. I suspect without proof that once you force the body to pull from the fat stores that it kinda notices the fact that it's got a food source already. Excersize in the morning is also a decent breakfast substitute for me.
  • brational 11y ago
    To add to it caffeine also. When I'm fasting and get hungry, anything that increase fatty acid oxidation (runnning walking caffeine weightlifting, etc) makes the hunger go away.
    • vkat 11y ago
      Quite the opposite for me. I find caffeine makes me hungry after about an hour or so I only have 1 drink per day.
      • brational 11y ago
        Do you drink black coffee /tea? Or does you caffeinated beverage include sugar?
        • vkat 11y ago
          Tea with milk and sugar.
          • brational 11y ago
            tea is pretty weak on caffeine and depending on the sugar you're + what's in the milk that would likely easily trump the caffeine effect. Caffeine increases lipid oxidation so you get more energy from fat. But sugar will be used up first and if it's enough to raise blood sugar, the drop will spike hunger more than the increased leptin from fat oxidation can stop it.
• rebootthesystem 11y ago
  I wonder what you mean by "efficient form of exercise". Can you compare it to swimming and rowing (the sliding seat kind). BTW, I don't run. I won't go as far as saying I hate it. I just don't enjoy it. Also, we have runners in the family. Every single one of them has had problems with their knees, ankles, hips, tendons, etc. A couple of surgeries here and there too. I do swim and row. I enjoy both and find them very relaxing and mentally stimulating. I swim both at our local olympic-size pool and lake for the open experience. I also row at the same lake. My definition of efficiency is, loosely stated, using the most major muscle groups per unit time. This means a bunch of things depending on what you are trying to achieve. For weight loss, for example, I think it is hard to beat swimming or rowing. Swimming, in particular, probably takes the lead because you expend calories two fold: The first is moving. The second is thermally, as you are immersed in water colder than your core temperature and your body has to deal with that the entire time you are immersed. For strength and muscle tone both are good but I'd probably suggest rowing might have a bit of an advantage because you engage muscles through a longer range of motion under a non-trivial load.
  • dorfsmay 11y ago
    See my other reply about what I mean by efficient. Note that swimming will pull less from fat reserve because of the cold, still a very good sport, but you do need to get to a body of water.
  • dlubarov 11y ago
    > Also, we have runners in the family. Every single one of them has had problems with their knees, ankles, hips, tendons, etc. A couple of surgeries here and there too. Swimming gets points for having a lower risk of injury, but OTOH, running is good for bone density which can help avoid injuries down the road. Were your relatives competitive runners who trained hard for races? I think injuries are much less common in casual runners who rarely train to exhaustion, and never try to power through oncoming conditions like shin splints.
    • rebootthesystem 11y ago
      Yes, marathon runners. You are exactly on point.
• kkhire 11y ago
  Since I've began intermittent fasting (Only eating in between 8am-8pm) my appetite and amount I can eat to be satisfied has decreased tremendously. It's crazy how quickly changes can be made to your body
  • 31reasons 11y ago
    eating between 8am-8pm ? thats entire day! How is that fasting ?
    • Snackchez 11y ago
      Pretty sure he meant 8pm - 8am and that's probably including sleep. So I'm assuming it goes a little like this: Get home, exercise, 8pm, eat a meal, eat snacks, get to bed, wake up before 8am, eat a meal, go to work.
    • joshuak 11y ago
      Breakfast... break fast Although religious in origin, I suspect that the idea of an overnight fast became a religious doctrine because of the clear health benefits. Just like many other food prohibitions in religion that have the net effect of improved public health and food safety. Eating during the day when active raises or at least supports an active metabolism. Eating before going to sleep cause excess energy to be stored. One can objectively cut through the diet fad, and general weightless noise by looking at the unequivocally consistent success of body builders and athletes in losing fat. This suggests that caloric deficit via increased activity is better then caloric deficit by reducing intake (generally athletes consume more calories then a typical diet, just not as many more as they burn when they are 'cutting'). The effects of the opposite behavior seem to confirm this. Sumo wrestlers build mass by eating a diet high in carbs and sleeping a lot. Mauritanian women traditionally drank camel milk and slept a lot to fatten up before marriage. So eating the 'entire day' but stopping at least 2-4 hours before sleep seems likely to be at least moderately effective. I wonder if there's been a study... ;)
      • DanBC 11y ago
        > One can objectively cut through the diet fad, and general weightless noise by looking at the unequivocally consistent success of body builders and athletes in losing fat. This suggests that caloric deficit via increased activity is better then caloric deficit by reducing intake (typically athletes consume more calories then a typical diet, just not as many more as they burn when they are 'cutting'). It's not consistent. You're only seeing the results on the people it works for. When we study whether exercise helps people lose weight we tent to see that either it doesn't help, or that it's counter productive and people put on body fat. People: 1) over estimate how many calories they burn during exercise 2) under estimate how many calories are in food And then they eat a treat which they feel they've earned, putting them into caloric surplus. You may say 'yes but we just need to tell them not to eat that treat and they'd be in calorific deficit', and while true it's obviously not going to work because "stop eating so much" has been the consistent message since the 1970s and it obviously doesn't work. Obese people aren't obese because they sleep a lot or because they don't do any exercise. (I know obese people who do 5k in 25 minutes). Obese people are obese because they eat too much of the wrong food.
• joelthelion 11y ago
  Try the 7 minute workout (or similar). It's much more efficient than running.