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People say "the jews" but were they an organised group or system? How can such a large collective of people (the jews) make a common decision on such a scale a

by brador 11y ago

People say "the jews" but were they an organised group or system? How can such a large collective of people (the jews) make a common decision on such a scale and act on it in seeming secret? Is there something fundamental in "the jews" grouping that allows them to, in theory, act cohesively? Is it their teachings? holy books? What was driving Hitlers hate against all jews, not just the jews that screwed him?

staunch 11y ago
Hitler's view: All Jews are Jewish first and German second. Their true loyalty was to the other Jewish people of the World, in Britain, America, and everywhere else. They viewed the war between Germany and the western powers as a war of Jew vs Jew. Their incentive was to end the war using their massively disproportionate influence over German society. The defeat of Germany was a victory for German Jews. My view: Jews were a somewhat cohesive group of people for thousands of years. For various reasons (prosecution among them) they were insular. Through the passage of time many Jews did accumulate vast wealth and power. But most Jews were poor as shit and got nothing out of being a Jew except an extra hard life. Some Jews felt like they were more German than Jew and others felt the opposite. Many Jews died fighting bravely for Germany and many more would have done so again.
- lispm 11y ago
  Hitler's view was that Jews are a race. A race without state. They live within other states. They also have preserved their race in a cleaner form through inbreeding, then other races. In his world view there is a hierarchy and classification of races. The 'Arier'/'Germanen'/'Deutsche' are a productive race able to create culture. There are races who can preserve culture and there are races, who can destroy culture. The jews. (I'm not a proponent of this view.)
  - staunch 11y ago
    This is the official Nazi doctrine but that doesn't mean Hitler's own views aren't more complicated. Like most cult leaders, he probably didn't believe his own bullshit the way his followers did. I think there are some hints that this is true.
    - lispm 11y ago
      Hitler certainly believed his bullshit, but he did not believe all the bullshit around him.
tormeh 11y ago
>How can such a large collective of people (the jews) make a common decision on such a scale and act on it in seeming secret? Same way ”the muslims” are invading Europe, using Europeans naivety and their reproductive rates to make Europe into a Muslim colony. It doesn't need to make sense. It just has to be infuriating.

by brador 11y ago

staunch 11y ago

Hitler's view: All Jews are Jewish first and German second. Their true loyalty was to the other Jewish people of the World, in Britain, America, and everywhere else. They viewed the war between Germany and the western powers as a war of Jew vs Jew. Their incentive was to end the war using their massively disproportionate influence over German society. The defeat of Germany was a victory for German Jews. My view: Jews were a somewhat cohesive group of people for thousands of years. For various reasons (prosecution among them) they were insular. Through the passage of time many Jews did accumulate vast wealth and power. But most Jews were poor as shit and got nothing out of being a Jew except an extra hard life. Some Jews felt like they were more German than Jew and others felt the opposite. Many Jews died fighting bravely for Germany and many more would have done so again.

lispm 11y ago
Hitler's view was that Jews are a race. A race without state. They live within other states. They also have preserved their race in a cleaner form through inbreeding, then other races. In his world view there is a hierarchy and classification of races. The 'Arier'/'Germanen'/'Deutsche' are a productive race able to create culture. There are races who can preserve culture and there are races, who can destroy culture. The jews. (I'm not a proponent of this view.)
- staunch 11y ago
  This is the official Nazi doctrine but that doesn't mean Hitler's own views aren't more complicated. Like most cult leaders, he probably didn't believe his own bullshit the way his followers did. I think there are some hints that this is true.
  - lispm 11y ago
    Hitler certainly believed his bullshit, but he did not believe all the bullshit around him.

tormeh 11y ago

>How can such a large collective of people (the jews) make a common decision on such a scale and act on it in seeming secret? Same way ”the muslims” are invading Europe, using Europeans naivety and their reproductive rates to make Europe into a Muslim colony. It doesn't need to make sense. It just has to be infuriating.