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He bought an iphone 6s as a testing device that would spend most of its life in a desk drawer! I hope this was a company expense or something? One of those woul

by opk 11y ago

He bought an iphone 6s as a testing device that would spend most of its life in a desk drawer! I hope this was a company expense or something? One of those would be like a weeks wages for me. I can't understand why people pay so much for smart phones anyway. And if your idiotic phone runs out of memory at the top of some mountain, "the moment isn't missed forever", the moment gets missed because you're mucking about with a stupid phone instead of enjoying the moment with your family.

yAnonymous 11y ago
But when you didn't record it, did the moment really happen?
icebraining 11y ago
https://xkcd.com/1314/ https://xkcd.com/1314/
- sigma2015 11y ago
  good point - but experiencing goes beyond visual perception which is what constraining yourself to the perspective of your cam narrows it down to.
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mahouse 11y ago
Weeks wages? More like months wages for me lol
madaxe_again 11y ago
"because you're mucking about with a stupid phone instead of enjoying the moment with your family." This, a thousand times over. Was at the beach last week, there was a seal sunbathing on a rock 50m from shore... Around me I could hear people complaining they couldn't see it properly - because all weren't looking at it, rather at the crappy digital zoom on their phones. I just looked at the fucking thing, these eye things work pretty well. I'd rather be present and use my meat-based memory than have a "memory" on my phone of an event I viewed through a glass, darkly. Also, 16gb 5s here, space I have to think about quarterly, if that.
- icebraining 11y ago
  I'd rather be present and use my meat-based memory than have a "memory" on my phone of an event I viewed through a glass, darkly. I'm going to blow your mind: you are actually allowed to do both.
  - shiven 11y ago
    ... you are actually allowed to do both. Allowed, yes. Capable, not likely. Multitasking is overrated and actually counterproductive when writing to the meat-store inside your skull.
    - kranner 11y ago
      There's a wide range of variation between being glued to a camera and using no camera. The last time I was at a scenic spot, I took four pictures in one minute and then put my phone away. The pictures do help with recalling the whole experience, such as the wind in my face (it was on top of a cliff overlooking the ocean).
    - randallsquared 11y ago
      This is why lifelogging is so important. I don't want to have to be distracted from my life making sure that I preserve memories in a higher-fidelity format than meat, but I do want to preserve those memories. Further, the ones that mean the most to me later are almost always spontaneous and unplanned, so a manually operated camera isn't especially useful for them, anyway. I want full recording of everything I see and hear at qualities high enough that I can go back and look at things I missed the first time. I thought Google Glass was the start of that, but it looks like it's going to be a few more years.
      - flycaliguy 11y ago
        There is no way that the experiences you will have while recording everything will be the same as without. Unless you think you are going to live forever and get super bored in 300 years, just live your life and live in the moment.
cdubzzz 11y ago
I couldn't even read any more of the arricle after that. I have a 16GB as well and something similar has happened to me on more than one occasion. When it does, I put the phone away for the rest of the trip and enjoy the hell out of the time with my family. None of those moments are missed.
- kalleboo 11y ago
  I guess Apple can use that as a slogan: "Phones so unreliable you'd rather spend the time with your family!"
wodenokoto 11y ago
So what if someone has more money than you, and can spend a few hundred dollars on a testing device?
- opk 11y ago
  It just seems rather wasteful. I don't care if the guy has more money than me though I am stunned that someone who appears to be a programmer (like myself) would regard quite a few hundred dollars as a trivial matter. As someone else mentions, I guess he must be very successful.
kaolinite 11y ago
David Smith is a very successful independent iOS developer - so yes, this would be a business expense.

by opk 11y ago

yAnonymous 11y ago

But when you didn't record it, did the moment really happen?

icebraining 11y ago

https://xkcd.com/1314/ https://xkcd.com/1314/

sigma2015 11y ago
good point - but experiencing goes beyond visual perception which is what constraining yourself to the perspective of your cam narrows it down to.
- deleted 11y ago
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mahouse 11y ago

Weeks wages? More like months wages for me lol

madaxe_again 11y ago

"because you're mucking about with a stupid phone instead of enjoying the moment with your family." This, a thousand times over. Was at the beach last week, there was a seal sunbathing on a rock 50m from shore... Around me I could hear people complaining they couldn't see it properly - because all weren't looking at it, rather at the crappy digital zoom on their phones. I just looked at the fucking thing, these eye things work pretty well. I'd rather be present and use my meat-based memory than have a "memory" on my phone of an event I viewed through a glass, darkly. Also, 16gb 5s here, space I have to think about quarterly, if that.

icebraining 11y ago
I'd rather be present and use my meat-based memory than have a "memory" on my phone of an event I viewed through a glass, darkly. I'm going to blow your mind: you are actually allowed to do both.
- shiven 11y ago
  ... you are actually allowed to do both. Allowed, yes. Capable, not likely. Multitasking is overrated and actually counterproductive when writing to the meat-store inside your skull.
  - kranner 11y ago
    There's a wide range of variation between being glued to a camera and using no camera. The last time I was at a scenic spot, I took four pictures in one minute and then put my phone away. The pictures do help with recalling the whole experience, such as the wind in my face (it was on top of a cliff overlooking the ocean).
  - randallsquared 11y ago
    This is why lifelogging is so important. I don't want to have to be distracted from my life making sure that I preserve memories in a higher-fidelity format than meat, but I do want to preserve those memories. Further, the ones that mean the most to me later are almost always spontaneous and unplanned, so a manually operated camera isn't especially useful for them, anyway. I want full recording of everything I see and hear at qualities high enough that I can go back and look at things I missed the first time. I thought Google Glass was the start of that, but it looks like it's going to be a few more years.
    - flycaliguy 11y ago
      There is no way that the experiences you will have while recording everything will be the same as without. Unless you think you are going to live forever and get super bored in 300 years, just live your life and live in the moment.

cdubzzz 11y ago

I couldn't even read any more of the arricle after that. I have a 16GB as well and something similar has happened to me on more than one occasion. When it does, I put the phone away for the rest of the trip and enjoy the hell out of the time with my family. None of those moments are missed.

kalleboo 11y ago
I guess Apple can use that as a slogan: "Phones so unreliable you'd rather spend the time with your family!"

wodenokoto 11y ago

So what if someone has more money than you, and can spend a few hundred dollars on a testing device?

opk 11y ago
It just seems rather wasteful. I don't care if the guy has more money than me though I am stunned that someone who appears to be a programmer (like myself) would regard quite a few hundred dollars as a trivial matter. As someone else mentions, I guess he must be very successful.

kaolinite 11y ago

David Smith is a very successful independent iOS developer - so yes, this would be a business expense.