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Thanks for this feedback-- It's very accurate that 13Fs do not pick up hedge fund activity such as short sales and derivatives. 13Fs are not necessarily compreh
by navlio 11y ago
Thanks for this feedback--
It's very accurate that 13Fs do not pick up hedge fund activity such as short sales and derivatives. 13Fs are not necessarily comprehensive of all of a single hedge fund's positions as certain funds sometimes make amendments at a much later date.
Hedge funds, particularly activist funds, do sometimes try to conceal the stocks they buy - usually by using derivatives which have different disclosure requirements. However, it is pretty rare for a hedge fund to be long and short the same stock unless they are doing it for tax reasons - this does not happen often. Going long a stock to create confusion about a short position (which is not disclosed) does not happen in the wild.
We believe that "knowing" in the aggregate just the stocks that managers are long has value. It is noteworthy that equity long/short strategies take a few quarters to materialize so using quarterly data is still valuable (hence we have excluded hedge funds that follow a short term statistical arbitrage strategy with many positions and very high turnover).
- vonnik 11y agoI think there is value in what you are doing, as long as everyone knows what context to put the information in, and realizes that they may lack significant additional information. In the wild, HFs are actively engaged in sending misinformation to the market in a number of ways, by running different sides of a trade through different prime brokers, etc. I have no doubt that some of them are sending information via their 13Fs that is meant to be misinterpreted.
- verycurious 11y agoIs it possible to have someone from navlio contact me? Is there a contact email or number for navlio?
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- navlio 11y agoApologies - we were having some issues with our email. You can reach us at NavlioTeam@gmail.com