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>I do it because there's an infinitely greater chance of life after vitrification than there is of life after burial, or life after cremation. Except that ther

>I do it because there's an infinitely greater chance of life after vitrification than there is of life after burial, or life after cremation. Except that there are other things you could do with the money, some of which could potentially even give you a much greater chance of not vitrifying in the first place.

loup-vaillant 11y ago
Like, living long enough to benefit from other life-extension procedures? I'm not sure how a few hundred dollars a years are going to hasten those processes. (I'm assuming that losing this money wouldn't prevent someone to live a healthy life in the first place.) Now if you would divert all cryonics resources towards existential risk mitigations, AI or rejuvenation research, that would be a different story. But pretty soon we'd have to discuss how other resources are allocated right now, and next thing we know, we're talking politics. If you ask me, the world can probably finance cryonics for everyone and AI research and anti-ageing research and existential risk mitigation and many other things I didn't think of, while preserving and improving our standards of living at the same time. The (huge) problem is getting our act together.
- eli_gottlieb 11y ago
  >Now if you would divert all cryonics resources towards existential risk mitigations, AI or rejuvenation research, that would be a different story. But pretty soon we'd have to discuss how other resources are allocated right now, and next thing we know, we're talking politics. You say "talking politics" like it's a bad thing! >If you ask me, the world can probably finance cryonics for everyone and AI research and anti-ageing research and existential risk mitigation and many other things I didn't think of, while preserving and improving our standards of living at the same time. The (huge) problem is getting our act together. Well yes.
  - loup-vaillant 11y ago
    > You say "talking politics" like it's a bad thing! That was unintended. But it is difficult: http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Politics_is_the_Mind-Killer http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Politics_is_the_Mind-Killer
    - eli_gottlieb 11y ago
      It's a lot less difficult when you're allowing for the fact that politics will be political: that it is about finding compromises and combinations, and sometimes just about the contest, between competing worldviews, interests, and values.

loup-vaillant 11y ago

Like, living long enough to benefit from other life-extension procedures? I'm not sure how a few hundred dollars a years are going to hasten those processes. (I'm assuming that losing this money wouldn't prevent someone to live a healthy life in the first place.) Now if you would divert all cryonics resources towards existential risk mitigations, AI or rejuvenation research, that would be a different story. But pretty soon we'd have to discuss how other resources are allocated right now, and next thing we know, we're talking politics. If you ask me, the world can probably finance cryonics for everyone and AI research and anti-ageing research and existential risk mitigation and many other things I didn't think of, while preserving and improving our standards of living at the same time. The (huge) problem is getting our act together.

eli_gottlieb 11y ago
>Now if you would divert all cryonics resources towards existential risk mitigations, AI or rejuvenation research, that would be a different story. But pretty soon we'd have to discuss how other resources are allocated right now, and next thing we know, we're talking politics. You say "talking politics" like it's a bad thing! >If you ask me, the world can probably finance cryonics for everyone and AI research and anti-ageing research and existential risk mitigation and many other things I didn't think of, while preserving and improving our standards of living at the same time. The (huge) problem is getting our act together. Well yes.
- loup-vaillant 11y ago
  > You say "talking politics" like it's a bad thing! That was unintended. But it is difficult: http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Politics_is_the_Mind-Killer http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Politics_is_the_Mind-Killer
  - eli_gottlieb 11y ago
    It's a lot less difficult when you're allowing for the fact that politics will be political: that it is about finding compromises and combinations, and sometimes just about the contest, between competing worldviews, interests, and values.