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> Envelope is a complete platform that makes building web apps on top of PostgreSQL easy. Easy when it is a simple CRUD app? When does 'easy' stop and the real

> Envelope is a complete platform that makes building web apps on top of PostgreSQL easy. Easy when it is a simple CRUD app? When does 'easy' stop and the real work begin? >...production ready and available today... What are some production apps that have been built with this tool? >All you need to know is SQL, and some HTML and you can publish your database as a web application with Envelope! Is that all? Again, is this just for a simple CRUD app? If not, then for a substantial application, what do you mean by "some HTML"? What are the real world uses for this? I didn't really get a clear picture of that from your web site. Edit: These questions sounded a bit snarky. Not my intention. If I had a better idea of what this was actually used for it would help.

justintocci 11y ago
> When does 'easy' stop and the real work begin? Envelope includes the Greyspots framework which is a collection of web components that talk to PostgreSQL through the Envelope server. These web components give you all the standard widgets that you would use to put together a normal database app. For example, all the components that MS Access provides, Greyspots framework provides. Many app developers will never need to write their own widgets, but for those who do need something unique, you can copy the closest Greyspots widget (its just a Javascript web component) and hack it into whatever you need. Then you just use it in your HTML via <my-component>. More info on Web Components: webcomponents.org
justintocci 11y ago
>...production ready and available today... Envelope has been in production for six years. Apps in production: Foreign stocking location (barcode inventory app), Jmine (Export of a Goldmine database published to the web), all our internal apps (Address Book, Calendar, Wiki), JType (export of Suntype published to the web, Suntype is a DOS-based newspaper accounting app). Workflow Products, LLC has used Envelope for all its customers for years now. > (SQL and HTML) Is that all? Again, is this just for a simple CRUD app? I've worked with MS Access for many years and never wrote my own widget. Envelope is designed for these types of apps. You can build simple apps with no Javascript. You can easily build very full featured apps with a little Javascript but you don't need to write any widgets or extend the platform to do so.
- JustSomeNobody 11y ago
  Ok, thanks. That makes much more sense now.

justintocci 11y ago

> When does 'easy' stop and the real work begin? Envelope includes the Greyspots framework which is a collection of web components that talk to PostgreSQL through the Envelope server. These web components give you all the standard widgets that you would use to put together a normal database app. For example, all the components that MS Access provides, Greyspots framework provides. Many app developers will never need to write their own widgets, but for those who do need something unique, you can copy the closest Greyspots widget (its just a Javascript web component) and hack it into whatever you need. Then you just use it in your HTML via <my-component>. More info on Web Components: webcomponents.org

justintocci 11y ago

>...production ready and available today... Envelope has been in production for six years. Apps in production: Foreign stocking location (barcode inventory app), Jmine (Export of a Goldmine database published to the web), all our internal apps (Address Book, Calendar, Wiki), JType (export of Suntype published to the web, Suntype is a DOS-based newspaper accounting app). Workflow Products, LLC has used Envelope for all its customers for years now. > (SQL and HTML) Is that all? Again, is this just for a simple CRUD app? I've worked with MS Access for many years and never wrote my own widget. Envelope is designed for these types of apps. You can build simple apps with no Javascript. You can easily build very full featured apps with a little Javascript but you don't need to write any widgets or extend the platform to do so.

JustSomeNobody 11y ago
Ok, thanks. That makes much more sense now.