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Restitution due to the actual people involved: $668 Money due in "penalties" and "fees" to the state: $54,000 Yay, graft!
by Cacti 11y ago
Restitution due to the actual people involved: $668
Money due in "penalties" and "fees" to the state: $54,000
Yay, graft!
- pdabbadabba 11y agoHuh? The penalties are to make sure that people are deterred from defrauding customers even in relatively low dollar amount cases like this one, and the rest was to pay the backers' legal fees. They only paid $668 in restitution because only 31 backers sued. What's the problem?
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- makomk 11y agoThe problem is that they have something like $25,000 in other backers who haven't been refunded, and those penalties and fees mean the creator almost certainly won't be able to refund them.
- pdabbadabba 11y agoI'm not sure why you were down-voted. You make a decent point--though I'm not sure what the solution to this problem is short of abolishing civil penalties altogether. (Though I suppose it would be possible to set up some rather complex system where future plaintiffs can recover from the previously collected civil penalties held by the state,) And certainly the issue you point out doesn't justify the "Yay, graft!" comment above.
- seivan 11y agoHehe, though you have to agree no better enforcer to make you ship than a SWAT team kicking in your door. Or ehm just regular cops paying you a visit. I'd ship with those conditions ;-)