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Not in a device. Function is the most important. Form should not interfere with function.

by tsotha 11y ago

epistasis 11y ago
In physical devices that are handled, and in graphical user interfaces, the form is the plurality of the function.
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nemo44x 11y ago
Why? Have you studied this? Have you read research that proves otherwise? When did I suggest form interferes with function? The idea that form and function are one says functionality and form are equally important. And there's good reason for this when humans are using your device. I believe your bias comes from your position as someone who's work is create functionality. You see that as the complete product and by virtue of your intimacy with it, the most important. But you're missing the entire picture. Start reading here [1] and I suggest you read the entire article. [1] http://alistapart.com/article/indefenseofeyecandy#section3 http://alistapart.com/article/indefenseofeyecandy#section3
- tsotha 11y ago
  >Have you studied this? There's nothing to study. What could you even mean by that? I'm sure there's an entire caste of useless "designers" who do all sorts of "research" to make themselves feel important, but in the real world people buy devices to perform tasks. If that's not what you want it for buy some jewelry instead.
  - nemo44x 11y ago
    There's actually a lot to study backed by quantitive evidence. Your business will suffer if you only focus on the function and fail to consider form. Do you think the Tesla Model S would have been a success had it the same design and form as previous attempts at an EV? The function of the car was far superior, obviously but the form was as well. Both of these elements matter and if you only have 1 or the other, you lose.
    - tsotha 11y ago
      The Tesla styling doesn't interfere with the function of the car, and if it did the car wouldn't sell. I'm not saying the form has no importance at all. It's just that you don't sacrifice function for form.
      - nemo44x 11y ago
        I think that's the entire point of "they're one". You're not working with a finite amount of status points here. Giving to one does not take away from the other and if it is then you're doing it wrong. The idea is that the form does in fact matter. A lot. But form at the expense of function would be function follows form which, although a philosophy, is probably suboptimal. What I'm trying to say is you don't say "lets make it work" and think of the form as an afterthought - as a "nice to have". We need to make it work and make it beautiful. Both are important and comprise the essence of what we are trying to build. Otherwise what's the point?

Not in a device. Function is the most important. Form should not interfere with function.

by tsotha 11y ago

Not in a device. Function is the most important. Form should not interfere with function.

epistasis 11y ago

In physical devices that are handled, and in graphical user interfaces, the form is the plurality of the function.

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nemo44x 11y ago

Why? Have you studied this? Have you read research that proves otherwise? When did I suggest form interferes with function? The idea that form and function are one says functionality and form are equally important. And there's good reason for this when humans are using your device. I believe your bias comes from your position as someone who's work is create functionality. You see that as the complete product and by virtue of your intimacy with it, the most important. But you're missing the entire picture. Start reading here [1] and I suggest you read the entire article. [1] http://alistapart.com/article/indefenseofeyecandy#section3 http://alistapart.com/article/indefenseofeyecandy#section3

tsotha 11y ago
>Have you studied this? There's nothing to study. What could you even mean by that? I'm sure there's an entire caste of useless "designers" who do all sorts of "research" to make themselves feel important, but in the real world people buy devices to perform tasks. If that's not what you want it for buy some jewelry instead.
- nemo44x 11y ago
  There's actually a lot to study backed by quantitive evidence. Your business will suffer if you only focus on the function and fail to consider form. Do you think the Tesla Model S would have been a success had it the same design and form as previous attempts at an EV? The function of the car was far superior, obviously but the form was as well. Both of these elements matter and if you only have 1 or the other, you lose.
  - tsotha 11y ago
    The Tesla styling doesn't interfere with the function of the car, and if it did the car wouldn't sell. I'm not saying the form has no importance at all. It's just that you don't sacrifice function for form.
    - nemo44x 11y ago
      I think that's the entire point of "they're one". You're not working with a finite amount of status points here. Giving to one does not take away from the other and if it is then you're doing it wrong. The idea is that the form does in fact matter. A lot. But form at the expense of function would be function follows form which, although a philosophy, is probably suboptimal. What I'm trying to say is you don't say "lets make it work" and think of the form as an afterthought - as a "nice to have". We need to make it work and make it beautiful. Both are important and comprise the essence of what we are trying to build. Otherwise what's the point?