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I love the Apple Watch nay-sayers. In the last month - I put my Apple Watch through hell - took it swimming every day for 1 hour on vacation in a salt water po

I love the Apple Watch nay-sayers. In the last month - I put my Apple Watch through hell - took it swimming every day for 1 hour on vacation in a salt water pool. Spend 7 days in the furnace that is a Vegas summer. Spend a weekend cleaning out a horders house where the white band got covered in black "dirt". It never once failed me. A little dish soap and my fingers to clean the band and it's as white as the day I got it. If I did that to my Tagg Heuer watch I'd spend 2 hours with q-tips and jewelry cleaner trying to get it clean. Plus - it let me check notifications, answer phone calls and the time without taking my phone into the pool; or without getting my phone dirty while cleaning out the house. It was get answering a phone call while in the pool and my phone was on a lounge chair 20 feet away. I can't wash my phone; I can't take it in the pool and nor do I want to touch it when my hands are dirty. It's an incredible piece of electronics. So what - I charge it every night. Show me a real iPhone user that doesn't charge their phone every night - and if they don't, their charging it as soon as they wake up. ... This is Tim Cook's Apple now - and I think Tim Cook is doing a lot of things Steve Jobs didn't want to do (the iPad Pro stylus, the keyboard, 6plus, iPad multitasking, etc...) So there will for sure be a bit of catch-up to be done. It's not who does it first. It's who does it better.

drzaiusapelord 11y ago
>It never once failed me. Who is saying its delicate? The complaints are of its milquetoast design, lack of other designs (wheres the round face), and poor value proposition. Smartwatches are pretty tough in general. My Moto 360 has been to hell and back. This is not a problem to solve. Its been solved. >This is Tim Cook's Apple now and that's the problem. I think Steve's upper class fashionista tastes would have dictated more styles or a more stylish device. Cook's group is designing for the Walmart crowd. The best looking smartwatches are on Android. That's an Apple failure right there.
- drdeadringer 11y ago
  > Cook's group is designing for the Walmart crowd. I'd like to know what is inherently wrong with this.
  - unprepare 11y ago
    Well, historically Apple has pursued the high-end market. Typically brands that go from high-end to low-end lose their high-end customers along the way, who don't want to be associated with low-end products. Saying they are going for the walmart crowd represents a cheapening of the product, cost cutting, mass production approach that leaves behind what many people like to believe about apple (that it is much more artistic, concerned more about making the best product than selling a product to the most people) There is nothing wrong with being in either market, but shifting between the two markets can be bad for business in that it's likely to lose previously loyal customers.
- lsiunsuex 11y ago
  Yesterday's event saw a Hermes Apple Watch - what's to say next year when I upgrade, I'm not buying a Gucci Apple Watch or Diesel Apple Watch or Lucky Brand Jeans Apple Watch. An all black watch with the Gucci "links" embossed on the band would look damn good with my Gucci wallet. How many years do Android watches have on the Apple Watch? 2? 3? Re: it's not who does it first. It's who does it better. This year was Hermes - next year - ? And after market bands so far are crap - my wife bought a black milanese band from Amazon - $20 - clasp opened while walking down the strip in LV and almost lost the watch / shattered on the concrete sidewalk - the quality is still there - it didn't die with Steve Jobs - it's still a 1st generation product - time is needed to iterate / improve.
manishsharan 11y ago
Your Tagg Heuer watch is timeless ; your apple watch, should you wear it in 2017, will make you look as if you are losing the race to keep up with the Joneses.
- ryanmonroe 11y ago
  If the worst thing about a product is that the new version will be much better, that's about as good as it's gonna get.
piyush_soni 11y ago
These days when Apple is copying almost everything, I hear this thing a lot "It's not who does it first, it's who does it better". And while the statement itself is true, the biases that go around what is "better" are huge. Come on, a lot of watches are doing this, and in a better manner. Moto 360 and other watches are much better, and they do all of what you have said, and you can fix any band you want to that. That's innovation. A round watch, that's innovation, they already had native watch apps, which Apple has tried to copy only with watch OS 2. They still don't have a GPS, which other Android watches have done already (including Moto 360 sport). LG Urbane looks fantastic! Really, the things that you are comparing are not awesome by any manner. The copied features in iPhone, which its fans defend with closed eyes saying "but it's just better". Really, in how many ways you can make a phone always respond to a catchphrase? Forget about always listening, iPhone wouldn't have got even a "Hey Siri" had it not been for Google Now. There are many such things which are just blatant rip-off. Trust me, everyone is doing awesome things AND doing them first, you just don't realize it.

drzaiusapelord 11y ago

>It never once failed me. Who is saying its delicate? The complaints are of its milquetoast design, lack of other designs (wheres the round face), and poor value proposition. Smartwatches are pretty tough in general. My Moto 360 has been to hell and back. This is not a problem to solve. Its been solved. >This is Tim Cook's Apple now and that's the problem. I think Steve's upper class fashionista tastes would have dictated more styles or a more stylish device. Cook's group is designing for the Walmart crowd. The best looking smartwatches are on Android. That's an Apple failure right there.

drdeadringer 11y ago
> Cook's group is designing for the Walmart crowd. I'd like to know what is inherently wrong with this.
- unprepare 11y ago
  Well, historically Apple has pursued the high-end market. Typically brands that go from high-end to low-end lose their high-end customers along the way, who don't want to be associated with low-end products. Saying they are going for the walmart crowd represents a cheapening of the product, cost cutting, mass production approach that leaves behind what many people like to believe about apple (that it is much more artistic, concerned more about making the best product than selling a product to the most people) There is nothing wrong with being in either market, but shifting between the two markets can be bad for business in that it's likely to lose previously loyal customers.
lsiunsuex 11y ago
Yesterday's event saw a Hermes Apple Watch - what's to say next year when I upgrade, I'm not buying a Gucci Apple Watch or Diesel Apple Watch or Lucky Brand Jeans Apple Watch. An all black watch with the Gucci "links" embossed on the band would look damn good with my Gucci wallet. How many years do Android watches have on the Apple Watch? 2? 3? Re: it's not who does it first. It's who does it better. This year was Hermes - next year - ? And after market bands so far are crap - my wife bought a black milanese band from Amazon - $20 - clasp opened while walking down the strip in LV and almost lost the watch / shattered on the concrete sidewalk - the quality is still there - it didn't die with Steve Jobs - it's still a 1st generation product - time is needed to iterate / improve.

manishsharan 11y ago

Your Tagg Heuer watch is timeless ; your apple watch, should you wear it in 2017, will make you look as if you are losing the race to keep up with the Joneses.

ryanmonroe 11y ago
If the worst thing about a product is that the new version will be much better, that's about as good as it's gonna get.

piyush_soni 11y ago

These days when Apple is copying almost everything, I hear this thing a lot "It's not who does it first, it's who does it better". And while the statement itself is true, the biases that go around what is "better" are huge. Come on, a lot of watches are doing this, and in a better manner. Moto 360 and other watches are much better, and they do all of what you have said, and you can fix any band you want to that. That's innovation. A round watch, that's innovation, they already had native watch apps, which Apple has tried to copy only with watch OS 2. They still don't have a GPS, which other Android watches have done already (including Moto 360 sport). LG Urbane looks fantastic! Really, the things that you are comparing are not awesome by any manner. The copied features in iPhone, which its fans defend with closed eyes saying "but it's just better". Really, in how many ways you can make a phone always respond to a catchphrase? Forget about always listening, iPhone wouldn't have got even a "Hey Siri" had it not been for Google Now. There are many such things which are just blatant rip-off. Trust me, everyone is doing awesome things AND doing them first, you just don't realize it.