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I think the CEO's a sociopath, and I could care less if he gets shamed like that dentist that shot Cecil the Lion. But the OP is supporting a wife and 4 kids,
by vellum 11y ago
I think the CEO's a sociopath, and I could care less if he gets shamed like that dentist that shot Cecil the Lion. But the OP is supporting a wife and 4 kids, so I'm giving him tactical advice.
>That I’d been told $75k was reasonable, and that I would have to look for work elsewhere if it was going to be $44k.
That sounds like an ultimatum. The problem is he's bluffing. He gets his bluff called, and then what? He's out on the street, in a worse place then he started from. My advice is not to bluff. Get a job first, don't look back. When you take a counter-offer, you also run the risk of having them get resentful, and firing you the first chance possible.
>2/ Typical protection of abusive companies by telling employees who are being openly screwed
This is based on what I've seen. I think companies should pay their employees market wages. But most companies will only give you a 5% raise, not a 20k one. If you know how to consistently get companies to give you a 20k raise, please share.
>3/ Easy to say when you're not living paycheck to paycheck and you see your dream slowly crumble before your eyes
I'm being realistic. Companies don't like hiring people who will take any job. He doesn't have to walk in there like Don Draper. Being nervous is fine. A lot of people get anxious. But going in there with a sob story isn't going to help his case. Even if they don’t turn him away, they can still use his living situation to lowball his salary.
- mcv 11y agoHe wasn't bluffing, he was being honest. Being naive. Against a sociopath boss. He "would have to look" elsewhere; it's announcing an intention, which is honest, but also a bad idea against an evil boss. His honesty is a sign of loyalty, which is clearly unwarranted with a boss that's only looking for ways to screw you. The problem is that a single developer has no power over an asshole boss. The only thing we can do is protect ourselves with exactly this kind of tactical advice. But by all means, also protest for better worker protections to prevent people from being abused like that. I feel like asking for naming and shaming the bad company so others can steer clear, but that's probably going to bite you in the ass. Suck it up, and name and shame them in 5 years, after you've got your life back on a solid road and well out of his reach.
- s73v3r 11y ago"I think the CEO's a sociopath, and I could care less if he gets shamed like that dentist that shot Cecil the Lion." I do care. I want him to be shamed. I want his entire business to fall apart, so that the CEO finds himself in the same position as this guy.
- cholantesh 11y agoI tihnk he deserves as much, but will it really help the OP?
- hanswang2013 11y agoShould we re-consider the 'sociopath' thing about this boss in this thread and all other following? I am not defending on this boss's position. Hell no. But why does not other employee of his company end up in the same sympathetic position as this OP?