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That mockup actually looks really nice. Why can't we have that same level of aesthetics in the Mac version? The main reason I don't use Firefox on my Mac is due

by cmelbye 17y ago

That mockup actually looks really nice. Why can't we have that same level of aesthetics in the Mac version? The main reason I don't use Firefox on my Mac is due to the really ugly user interface.

cabalamat 17y ago
Fuck aesthetics. As long as it works and doesn't get in my way, I'll be content, and it'll be ahead of 99% of software.
- cmelbye 17y ago
  I don't use a $1,700 Apple computer so that I can use poorly designed software ;-)
- tdoggette 17y ago
  Part of "doesn't get in the way" is a consistent and pleasant user interface.
  - cabalamat 17y ago
    Sure. An even bigger part of "doesn't get in the way" is not crashing or grinding to a halt for seconds at a time.
    - tdoggette 17y ago
      It's not that part of the comment that's getting it downvoted, it's the first bit.
    - DougBTX 17y ago
      That's a given. If someone is putting out software that bad, I'm not even going to think of using it, so it doesn't come into consideration. Hell, I don't even know of any modern browser that bad; I have no idea where your 99% comes from. Even IE passes that test now.
walkon 17y ago
You should try the Vimperator extension. It trades almost the entire UI/chrome for modal, vim-style, keyboard browsing.
- cmelbye 17y ago
  Well, I still like having a user interface. I don't like having to remember commands and keyboard shortcuts for vim, so I don't know if I would like an extension like that. I will look into extensions/themes for Firefox however.
- Jach 17y ago
  While I love vim, and I really, really don't like the Chrome-style UI, I found that addon to be irritating. I like my Gentoo box's Firefox UI just as it is, with the Tab Mix Plus addon letting me stack tabs in rows.
tortilla 17y ago
I currently use the GrApple Crisp theme from http://www.takebacktheweb.org/ http://www.takebacktheweb.org/ Not perfect, but makes it a bit more pleasant.
- cmelbye 17y ago
  Heh, that's actually pretty cool. I like having tabs above the address bar and buttons. Thanks for the tip!
- cscotta 17y ago
  Completely with you there. Safari was my primary browser (and has been for about a year) until a friend mentioned that Firefox 3.6b5 had some major retooling with respect to perceived performance (esp. in the address bar and page compositing engine). I'm really enjoying it so far, but had to switch to the GrApple Yummy theme at the above link. The base Firelight treatment feels so bulbous with a lot of wasted vertical space and unnecessary large rounded elements. I love this UI concept series, though - the proposed Windows design is gorgeous. I'm jealous of how beautiful Chrome and the new Firefox 4 concepts look with Aero compared to their bulgy gray counterparts on OS X. Never thought I'd say that :-/

by cmelbye 17y ago

That mockup actually looks really nice. Why can't we have that same level of aesthetics in the Mac version? The main reason I don't use Firefox on my Mac is due to the really ugly user interface.

cabalamat 17y ago

Fuck aesthetics. As long as it works and doesn't get in my way, I'll be content, and it'll be ahead of 99% of software.

cmelbye 17y ago
I don't use a $1,700 Apple computer so that I can use poorly designed software ;-)
tdoggette 17y ago
Part of "doesn't get in the way" is a consistent and pleasant user interface.
- cabalamat 17y ago
  Sure. An even bigger part of "doesn't get in the way" is not crashing or grinding to a halt for seconds at a time.
  - tdoggette 17y ago
    It's not that part of the comment that's getting it downvoted, it's the first bit.
  - DougBTX 17y ago
    That's a given. If someone is putting out software that bad, I'm not even going to think of using it, so it doesn't come into consideration. Hell, I don't even know of any modern browser that bad; I have no idea where your 99% comes from. Even IE passes that test now.

walkon 17y ago

You should try the Vimperator extension. It trades almost the entire UI/chrome for modal, vim-style, keyboard browsing.

cmelbye 17y ago
Well, I still like having a user interface. I don't like having to remember commands and keyboard shortcuts for vim, so I don't know if I would like an extension like that. I will look into extensions/themes for Firefox however.
Jach 17y ago
While I love vim, and I really, really don't like the Chrome-style UI, I found that addon to be irritating. I like my Gentoo box's Firefox UI just as it is, with the Tab Mix Plus addon letting me stack tabs in rows.

tortilla 17y ago

I currently use the GrApple Crisp theme from http://www.takebacktheweb.org/ http://www.takebacktheweb.org/ Not perfect, but makes it a bit more pleasant.

cmelbye 17y ago
Heh, that's actually pretty cool. I like having tabs above the address bar and buttons. Thanks for the tip!
cscotta 17y ago
Completely with you there. Safari was my primary browser (and has been for about a year) until a friend mentioned that Firefox 3.6b5 had some major retooling with respect to perceived performance (esp. in the address bar and page compositing engine). I'm really enjoying it so far, but had to switch to the GrApple Yummy theme at the above link. The base Firelight treatment feels so bulbous with a lot of wasted vertical space and unnecessary large rounded elements. I love this UI concept series, though - the proposed Windows design is gorgeous. I'm jealous of how beautiful Chrome and the new Firefox 4 concepts look with Aero compared to their bulgy gray counterparts on OS X. Never thought I'd say that :-/