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Having worked on many government and DoD contracts, I find this rather unsurprising. The phrase "tip of the iceberg" comes to mind..

by beaker 17y ago

neurotech1 17y ago
Part of the problem is a fairly large number of projects are theoretical research initially. What is more surprising is they didn't seem to apply a "peer review" to this. I find it very hard to believe that the DoD (NSA?) do not have sufficient highly talented programmers / analysts to review these programs. Another issue is that after 9/11, they were evaluating a larger number of possible solutions, In the hope that at least some of them produce viable results.
- lhuang 17y ago
  Not sure if you can really bucket this under "theoretical research." Theoretical research is at least grounded in logic and paper rationale. This case seems like a mix of equal parts ponzi scheme showmanship, conspiracy theory, and tech-illiterate paranoids. I don't even think this ever got to the hands of the NSA or people who have the technical proficiency to call bs (this in and of itself is surprising given the sheer stupidity of what this clown was trying to sell). If anything this fraud was faciliated by petty political and institutional bureaucratic jostling for relevance, power, and funding. Basically some tards, convinced that they're onto something big, hides it from everyone else because they don't want to share in the credit/fame. Not surprising given this is the US govt. Hell most corporations are like this too. What I find most troubling about all of this is that after 9/11 there was a such a stink about intra-department communication and cooperation. The argument being that if people simply talked more with one another lapses in security and plain dum-dum-ness would be greatly reduced if not eliminated outright. Fuck, Bush even created a whole department to do just this!
  - neurotech1 17y ago
    I agree with all 3 of your points.
- johnl 17y ago
  If I want to get myself up to speed on an issue, idea, or problem I examine the issue from as many angles as possible, then start narrowing my focus. Some of my "first round" selections taken out of context might look pretty bad but give me the necessary feedback that I am on track and what is reality and what is not. It's really the money that I find bothersome.

Having worked on many government and DoD contracts, I find this rather unsurprising. The phrase "tip of the iceberg" comes to mind..

by beaker 17y ago

Having worked on many government and DoD contracts, I find this rather unsurprising. The phrase "tip of the iceberg" comes to mind..

neurotech1 17y ago

Part of the problem is a fairly large number of projects are theoretical research initially. What is more surprising is they didn't seem to apply a "peer review" to this. I find it very hard to believe that the DoD (NSA?) do not have sufficient highly talented programmers / analysts to review these programs. Another issue is that after 9/11, they were evaluating a larger number of possible solutions, In the hope that at least some of them produce viable results.

lhuang 17y ago
Not sure if you can really bucket this under "theoretical research." Theoretical research is at least grounded in logic and paper rationale. This case seems like a mix of equal parts ponzi scheme showmanship, conspiracy theory, and tech-illiterate paranoids. I don't even think this ever got to the hands of the NSA or people who have the technical proficiency to call bs (this in and of itself is surprising given the sheer stupidity of what this clown was trying to sell). If anything this fraud was faciliated by petty political and institutional bureaucratic jostling for relevance, power, and funding. Basically some tards, convinced that they're onto something big, hides it from everyone else because they don't want to share in the credit/fame. Not surprising given this is the US govt. Hell most corporations are like this too. What I find most troubling about all of this is that after 9/11 there was a such a stink about intra-department communication and cooperation. The argument being that if people simply talked more with one another lapses in security and plain dum-dum-ness would be greatly reduced if not eliminated outright. Fuck, Bush even created a whole department to do just this!
- neurotech1 17y ago
  I agree with all 3 of your points.
johnl 17y ago
If I want to get myself up to speed on an issue, idea, or problem I examine the issue from as many angles as possible, then start narrowing my focus. Some of my "first round" selections taken out of context might look pretty bad but give me the necessary feedback that I am on track and what is reality and what is not. It's really the money that I find bothersome.