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iOS has a 14% market share

by erispoe 11y ago

metamet 11y ago
DOMINATION.
- coldtea 11y ago
  They dominate the profits -- and the people that actuall do anything "smart" (most web use in the US for example, is from iOS devices, despite Android devices being far more percentage-wise). Androids huge sales are mostly low end of the market -- people who don't care about smartphones or computers, and just get whats cheaper with a 2 year contract.
  - yohui 11y ago
    But most mobile web browsing worldwide is from Android devices, and iOS's share of the mobile device market in the US is much larger than in most other countries (not quite parity, but Android's lead is much smaller). Apple does reap the lion's share of profit from smartphone sales, but they don't dominate smartphone use.
    - coldtea 11y ago
      >But most mobile web browsing worldwide is from Android devices Of course it is -- there are way more of those Android units. But I wanted to point which users are more active, not mere volume. Even in the US Android could have more volume, but iOS users still generate far more traffic (not as total: as traffic per head). If the 10% or 5% iOS users in a country generate the 20% or 30% of web traffic, then they are much more heavier tech/web users than the others.
  - sbov 11y ago
    > most web use in the US for example, is from iOS devices Any proof? Our US-only ecommerce site has 33% more visitors using Android than iOS. Our other US-only site has 2x more Android visitors than iOS. I realize that sites vary by demographics, so I'm curious if you're just making this statement up, using your own site's stats, or found something that actually backs this up on the wider web.
    - coldtea 11y ago
      >Any proof? http://fortune.com/2015/09/04/apple-tv-everywhere-share/ http://fortune.com/2015/09/04/apple-tv-everywhere-share/ http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-outshines-android-in-us-mobile-web-traffic/ http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-outshines-android-in-us-mobil... Or: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/08/03/ios-users-seven-times-more-active-than-android-users-suggests-net-applications/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/08/03/ios-users-... Or even this, which spins the issue: http://www.businessinsider.com/android-is-beating-ios-in-web-usage-2014-8 http://www.businessinsider.com/android-is-beating-ios-in-web... The latter is about Android "beating" iOs in web usage for the first time -- but in fact usage/users ratio is much higher in iOS, so you get more web usage from far fewer users. >Our US-only ecommerce site has 33% more visitors using Android than iOS. Our other US-only site has 2x more Android visitors than iOS. Depends if it attracts the demographic who would opt for cheaper Android phones. My numbers are from several generic articles (by ad companies, sites etc) on the respective platforms web use.
r00fus 11y ago
Apple has near complete profit share: http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-share-of-smartphone-industrys-profits-soars-to-92-1436727458 http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-share-of-smartphone-indus... Yes,92% of industry profits is domination in my book. Without sustainable profits, marketshare is meaningless. Only profitable players are Samsung and Apple.

iOS has a 14% market share

by erispoe 11y ago

iOS has a 14% market share

metamet 11y ago

DOMINATION.

coldtea 11y ago
They dominate the profits -- and the people that actuall do anything "smart" (most web use in the US for example, is from iOS devices, despite Android devices being far more percentage-wise). Androids huge sales are mostly low end of the market -- people who don't care about smartphones or computers, and just get whats cheaper with a 2 year contract.
- yohui 11y ago
  But most mobile web browsing worldwide is from Android devices, and iOS's share of the mobile device market in the US is much larger than in most other countries (not quite parity, but Android's lead is much smaller). Apple does reap the lion's share of profit from smartphone sales, but they don't dominate smartphone use.
  - coldtea 11y ago
    >But most mobile web browsing worldwide is from Android devices Of course it is -- there are way more of those Android units. But I wanted to point which users are more active, not mere volume. Even in the US Android could have more volume, but iOS users still generate far more traffic (not as total: as traffic per head). If the 10% or 5% iOS users in a country generate the 20% or 30% of web traffic, then they are much more heavier tech/web users than the others.
- sbov 11y ago
  > most web use in the US for example, is from iOS devices Any proof? Our US-only ecommerce site has 33% more visitors using Android than iOS. Our other US-only site has 2x more Android visitors than iOS. I realize that sites vary by demographics, so I'm curious if you're just making this statement up, using your own site's stats, or found something that actually backs this up on the wider web.
  - coldtea 11y ago
    >Any proof? http://fortune.com/2015/09/04/apple-tv-everywhere-share/ http://fortune.com/2015/09/04/apple-tv-everywhere-share/ http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-outshines-android-in-us-mobile-web-traffic/ http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-outshines-android-in-us-mobil... Or: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/08/03/ios-users-seven-times-more-active-than-android-users-suggests-net-applications/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2014/08/03/ios-users-... Or even this, which spins the issue: http://www.businessinsider.com/android-is-beating-ios-in-web-usage-2014-8 http://www.businessinsider.com/android-is-beating-ios-in-web... The latter is about Android "beating" iOs in web usage for the first time -- but in fact usage/users ratio is much higher in iOS, so you get more web usage from far fewer users. >Our US-only ecommerce site has 33% more visitors using Android than iOS. Our other US-only site has 2x more Android visitors than iOS. Depends if it attracts the demographic who would opt for cheaper Android phones. My numbers are from several generic articles (by ad companies, sites etc) on the respective platforms web use.

r00fus 11y ago

Apple has near complete profit share: http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-share-of-smartphone-industrys-profits-soars-to-92-1436727458 http://www.wsj.com/articles/apples-share-of-smartphone-indus... Yes,92% of industry profits is domination in my book. Without sustainable profits, marketshare is meaningless. Only profitable players are Samsung and Apple.