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Even taking usability into account, an argument can be made that iPad Pro is neither here nor there. Consider a simple use case: let's say iPad Pro is the sole

by shas3 11y ago

Even taking usability into account, an argument can be made that iPad Pro is neither here nor there. Consider a simple use case: let's say iPad Pro is the sole enterprise device handed out to employees at a company. AFAIK, even a simple thing like compressing multiple files (given irrational attachment size limits won't be going away any time soon) and sending them via email will be impossible given how closed and pared down iOS really is. How will you do file management? What about specific applications (e.g. Solidworks)? They will have to be re-done for iOS, which could be a pretty hard thing for small vendors. iPad Pro and the new iOS will have to be step change over iPad Air and current iOS to be appealing as a laptop replacement. The new iOS must be so near to OS X as for the difference to be immaterial. On the other hand, a Surface Pro is truly a replacement for a laptop as it features a full blown Windows 8 (or 10, now).

comex 11y ago
File management - new built-in app in iOS 9: http://www.businessinsider.com/this-hidden-app-in-ios-9-lets-you-manage-your-files-like-dropbox-2015-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/this-hidden-app-in-ios-9-lets... Compressing multiple files - this has actually been possible since iOS 8: http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/winzipr-for-ios-now-works-with-icloud-drive-zip-protect-and-safely-share-files-1986454.htm http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/winzipr-for-ios-now...
- wingerlang 11y ago
  By that definition of file management it is the same as e.g. the Dropbox app isn't it? Not "true" file management like iFile or such apps (jb).
twiceaday 11y ago
Being a sole enterprise device is not a simple use case and it has nothing to do with general usability as far as most people are concerned. Your comment is an epitome of what the post you replied to was talking about.
- shas3 11y ago
  On the contrary, there is perhaps only one use case where iPad Pro could be a boon for users: industrial, graphic, and sundry designers, visual artists, etc. As I see it today, iPad Pro is a niche product, not a mass-market pro tablet like the ones made by PC manufacturers. Everyone else can either just continue using iPads or use full featured laptops. Contrast this with the Surface Pro.
  - intended 11y ago
    In those cases, most people would want to have full photoshop/ z brush instead of an app. Theres also lots of artists who have reviewed the surface pro line favorably. Notably penny arcade's Mike K, and MTG's Noah Bradley. When designers/visual artists are going to look at the market they are going to see surface pro, not iPad pro. To top it off - The pro is also relatively closer to the cintiq ideal. Couple that with the iPad pro's price point? How will you justify getting an iPad pro? The parallax, accuracy and hands on reviews aren't out yet. I don't see who in the digital design world would buy this, or why.

by shas3 11y ago

comex 11y ago

File management - new built-in app in iOS 9: http://www.businessinsider.com/this-hidden-app-in-ios-9-lets-you-manage-your-files-like-dropbox-2015-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/this-hidden-app-in-ios-9-lets... Compressing multiple files - this has actually been possible since iOS 8: http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/winzipr-for-ios-now-works-with-icloud-drive-zip-protect-and-safely-share-files-1986454.htm http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/winzipr-for-ios-now...

wingerlang 11y ago
By that definition of file management it is the same as e.g. the Dropbox app isn't it? Not "true" file management like iFile or such apps (jb).

twiceaday 11y ago

Being a sole enterprise device is not a simple use case and it has nothing to do with general usability as far as most people are concerned. Your comment is an epitome of what the post you replied to was talking about.

shas3 11y ago
On the contrary, there is perhaps only one use case where iPad Pro could be a boon for users: industrial, graphic, and sundry designers, visual artists, etc. As I see it today, iPad Pro is a niche product, not a mass-market pro tablet like the ones made by PC manufacturers. Everyone else can either just continue using iPads or use full featured laptops. Contrast this with the Surface Pro.
- intended 11y ago
  In those cases, most people would want to have full photoshop/ z brush instead of an app. Theres also lots of artists who have reviewed the surface pro line favorably. Notably penny arcade's Mike K, and MTG's Noah Bradley. When designers/visual artists are going to look at the market they are going to see surface pro, not iPad pro. To top it off - The pro is also relatively closer to the cintiq ideal. Couple that with the iPad pro's price point? How will you justify getting an iPad pro? The parallax, accuracy and hands on reviews aren't out yet. I don't see who in the digital design world would buy this, or why.