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> It might be best of breed in terms of polish and features It is. That's exactly how Apple revolutionizes anything - by making it fun, and natural, to use. Ju

> It might be best of breed in terms of polish and features It is. That's exactly how Apple revolutionizes anything - by making it fun, and natural, to use. Just like tablets, mp3 players, and smartphones existed before Apple got into them. This is what they do, it's what they always do, and yet people are surprised by it every time.

nemo44x 11y ago
Yup. When jobs announced the iPod at a special event most people said "big deal, it's an MP3 player". What they didn't look at was how great the UI was, how well it integrated with their Mac (and eventually PC) and how much better the same features that already existed elsewhere were. I believe the same rules apply here. And the app store will be the best in town. Again.
- abritinthebay 11y ago
  and with the iPad: "big deal, it's just a large iPhone". The fact that most of HN seems to hate or deride these features (like the Live Photos thing) tells me that they'll likely be a huge success and all be using them in a year.
  - nemo44x 11y ago
    Which is odd because you would think a community like this the actors would be forward thinking and try and see what the possibilities are. The lack of creativity isn't unique to this place or generation - Slashdot had similar sentiments years ago when they still mattered.
    - abritinthebay 11y ago
      Not really odd. It's pretty normal at this point.
    - rimantas 11y ago
      Alas, community like this has very little empathy for non-tech, non-dev folks. I am amused how narrow worldview can be sometimes on HN. Every kid should learn to code, because nothing else is interesting on Earth, everyone is supposed to tinker with their devices, because what's else there to do, etc. And when I state that "Inmates are running the asylum" is one of the book that changed my worldview it does not usually end well for me.
  - derefr 11y ago
    > most of HN seems to hate or deride these features (like the Live Photos thing) tells me that they'll likely be a huge success and all be using them in a year If the fact that gifv videos are already everywhere (Facebook, Tumblr, Reddit, Vine-sorta-kinda) didn't tip you off. It seems like people are starting to think of short, usually-silent, looped videos as just what you take to preserve a moment, instead of a photo.
    - abritinthebay 11y ago
      Indeed, yet a see a lot of hate for Live Photos here and on other places like Reddit. It's funny. Tech-savvy crowds are often the worst arbiters of taste, certainly the worst predictors of it.
      - nemo44x 11y ago
        I think because they often focus on function and do not consider form as an important factor - which has proven to be wrong time and again. Form and function are one.

nemo44x 11y ago

Yup. When jobs announced the iPod at a special event most people said "big deal, it's an MP3 player". What they didn't look at was how great the UI was, how well it integrated with their Mac (and eventually PC) and how much better the same features that already existed elsewhere were. I believe the same rules apply here. And the app store will be the best in town. Again.

abritinthebay 11y ago
and with the iPad: "big deal, it's just a large iPhone". The fact that most of HN seems to hate or deride these features (like the Live Photos thing) tells me that they'll likely be a huge success and all be using them in a year.
- nemo44x 11y ago
  Which is odd because you would think a community like this the actors would be forward thinking and try and see what the possibilities are. The lack of creativity isn't unique to this place or generation - Slashdot had similar sentiments years ago when they still mattered.
  - abritinthebay 11y ago
    Not really odd. It's pretty normal at this point.
  - rimantas 11y ago
    Alas, community like this has very little empathy for non-tech, non-dev folks. I am amused how narrow worldview can be sometimes on HN. Every kid should learn to code, because nothing else is interesting on Earth, everyone is supposed to tinker with their devices, because what's else there to do, etc. And when I state that "Inmates are running the asylum" is one of the book that changed my worldview it does not usually end well for me.
- derefr 11y ago
  > most of HN seems to hate or deride these features (like the Live Photos thing) tells me that they'll likely be a huge success and all be using them in a year If the fact that gifv videos are already everywhere (Facebook, Tumblr, Reddit, Vine-sorta-kinda) didn't tip you off. It seems like people are starting to think of short, usually-silent, looped videos as just what you take to preserve a moment, instead of a photo.
  - abritinthebay 11y ago
    Indeed, yet a see a lot of hate for Live Photos here and on other places like Reddit. It's funny. Tech-savvy crowds are often the worst arbiters of taste, certainly the worst predictors of it.
    - nemo44x 11y ago
      I think because they often focus on function and do not consider form as an important factor - which has proven to be wrong time and again. Form and function are one.