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A Rabbi Selling Kosher Vibrators
- ck2 11y agoYet another extreme religion being incredibly damaging to society and women in particular.
- goldfeld 11y agoUnfortunately we see people continue gullible to extremism in order to find a life purpose, but it's maybe a commentary on our materialistic and empty capitalistic system (which has all the wrong incentives lined up to stifle education about the wealth of life experiences you could have to find purpose) that religion has been steadily on the rise. Religion gets adepts both from oppressed camps as well as disillusioned followers of the "things" religion--that is, more power and things as a life purpose. Extremism happens because it's much easier for a person made ignorant and alienated by our society to accept a system of thought wholesale, as a framework, otherwise there would be too much friction in their heads to enjoy the religious experiences (much like an athlete can't have cognitive friction when performing). It's the sense of bonding, community and shared powerful, meaningful experiences that keep extremists together. Once our educational system gets its act together on teaching how people can find these things elsewhere it should get better. That said, in this case, the article points to some rabbis with a more progressive mindset who may shake things up a bit from inside their society. Not necessarily promising but it's nice to hear of an oasis of good sense/empathy/tolerance once in a while.
- ck2 11y agoThe most progressive rabbi would not be a rabbi at all. Fairy tales are for children, most people outgrow them. Mass religion is very damaging to mass society.
- goldfeld 11y agoActually the article states the views very clearly: orthodox rabbis who believe deeply in their mindset but accept modern life's progresses as not being a threat to them. They deeply believe something yet accept/tolerate those without the same strict views. I find it to be a good compromise (for them, not for me.) I'll give you that "progressive" was not a good word, though I was talking about whatever you'll call the rabbis described in the article.
- CamperBob2 11y agoIsrael’s ultra-Orthodox population is a significant and growing market, making up about 11 percent of the country’s 8.3 million people. The community is expected to comprise about 18 percent of Israel’s population within 15 years, according to government statistics. I just can't understand how this is happening. This is not how it -- meaning the progress of civilization -- was supposed to go.
- rabidonrails 11y agoThis comment seems strange and misguided at best. Practice of religion or beliefs (especially when not infringing on other's rights to do so) is, I can only hope, _exactly_ how civilization should progress. Instead, looking down on a group of people because they are ultra-orthodox (in any religion) - is "not how it...was supposed to go."
- x3n0ph3n3 11y agoUltra-orthodox members are not known for their tolerance of other people's freedoms. That's one giant caveat you've got there.
- CamperBob2 11y agoSorry, but I reject this point of view. My failure to tolerate religious intolerance doesn't make me intolerant in an equivalent sense. You might as well argue that the abolition of slavery contradicts libertarianism.
- golemotron 11y agoIsn't believe in progress a religion?
- x3n0ph3n3 11y agoBeliefs are not the same as a religion. I believe the Earth revolves around the sun, but that doesn't make it a religion.
- saljam 11y agoI find it surreal how this article is reporting about a business based in an Israeli settlement in the Palestinian West Bank as if that's completely normal and isn't part of a horrible colonial occupation by any international standard.