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In context Jobs was talking about a stylus as the only/primary input for the device, meaning you would be required to have a stylus to ever use the device. Of c

In context Jobs was talking about a stylus as the only/primary input for the device, meaning you would be required to have a stylus to ever use the device. Of course that would be terrible. This stylus is an optional accessory with a very specific use case. A fundamentally different thing.

hexasquid 11y ago
In context Jobs was talking about getting them, putting them away and losing them.
- austenallred 11y ago
  "How are we going to communicate with this? We don't want to carry around a mouse, so what are we going to do? Oh, a stylus, right? We're going to use a stylus? No. Who wants a stylus? You have to get them, put them away, you lose them, yuck. So let's not use a stylus. We're going to use the best pointing device in the world; a pointing device that we're all born with - we're born with ten of them. We're going to use our fingers. We're going to touch it with our fingers. And we have invented a new technology called multi-touch..."
  - zenir 11y ago
    I didn't know apple invented multi-touch.
    - elektromekatron 11y ago
      They didn't, but then again they also now have a stylus, so at least they are consistent.
    - austenallred 11y ago
      By the way, I'm not saying they did, I'm just including the entire quote from Jobs. The important part of the quote in this context is that Jobs was obviously referring to the stylus being the primary input device for the iPhone being unacceptable.
  - justizin 11y ago
    apple did not invent multi touch.
    - MagnumOpus 11y ago
      Of course they didn't. That never prevented Steve from claiming they did...
elektromekatron 11y ago
Not sure you are completely correct there, as he said it repeatedly in many contexts. "It's like we said on the iPad, if you see a stylus, they blew it." - Steve Jobs edited to add - "as soon as you have a stylus, you're dead." - Steve Jobs
- chc 11y ago
  That is a direct quote from Jobs. "If you see a stylus, they blew it." You can say that Jobs' aversion to styluses was a little stronger than it should have been due to the devices he'd seen with styluses, but his stated opinion was not this moderate "Styluses shouldn't be mandatory" stance people are trying to ascribe to him here.
  - austenallred 11y ago
    Context matters, especially in technology, where the entire industry is in constant upheaval.
  - seiji 11y ago
    Really? It's pretty clear he meant "when you see a device can only operate with a stylus, it's a bad product."
- pilsetnieks 11y ago
  But it doesn't have a stylus. You can get one if you want (for the low, low price of $99) but you don't need it.
marknutter 11y ago
This is exactly right, and I'm sure it was a shot at the original Microsoft Tablet PC which required a stylus for input. The Pencil they announced today is very clearly for drawing applications and not intended to be the primary means of interacting with the iPad.
macmac 11y ago
You are taking Apple apologetics to a whole new level.

hexasquid 11y ago

In context Jobs was talking about getting them, putting them away and losing them.

austenallred 11y ago
"How are we going to communicate with this? We don't want to carry around a mouse, so what are we going to do? Oh, a stylus, right? We're going to use a stylus? No. Who wants a stylus? You have to get them, put them away, you lose them, yuck. So let's not use a stylus. We're going to use the best pointing device in the world; a pointing device that we're all born with - we're born with ten of them. We're going to use our fingers. We're going to touch it with our fingers. And we have invented a new technology called multi-touch..."
- zenir 11y ago
  I didn't know apple invented multi-touch.
  - elektromekatron 11y ago
    They didn't, but then again they also now have a stylus, so at least they are consistent.
  - austenallred 11y ago
    By the way, I'm not saying they did, I'm just including the entire quote from Jobs. The important part of the quote in this context is that Jobs was obviously referring to the stylus being the primary input device for the iPhone being unacceptable.
- justizin 11y ago
  apple did not invent multi touch.
  - MagnumOpus 11y ago
    Of course they didn't. That never prevented Steve from claiming they did...

elektromekatron 11y ago

Not sure you are completely correct there, as he said it repeatedly in many contexts. "It's like we said on the iPad, if you see a stylus, they blew it." - Steve Jobs edited to add - "as soon as you have a stylus, you're dead." - Steve Jobs

chc 11y ago
That is a direct quote from Jobs. "If you see a stylus, they blew it." You can say that Jobs' aversion to styluses was a little stronger than it should have been due to the devices he'd seen with styluses, but his stated opinion was not this moderate "Styluses shouldn't be mandatory" stance people are trying to ascribe to him here.
- austenallred 11y ago
  Context matters, especially in technology, where the entire industry is in constant upheaval.
- seiji 11y ago
  Really? It's pretty clear he meant "when you see a device can only operate with a stylus, it's a bad product."
pilsetnieks 11y ago
But it doesn't have a stylus. You can get one if you want (for the low, low price of $99) but you don't need it.

marknutter 11y ago

This is exactly right, and I'm sure it was a shot at the original Microsoft Tablet PC which required a stylus for input. The Pencil they announced today is very clearly for drawing applications and not intended to be the primary means of interacting with the iPad.

macmac 11y ago

You are taking Apple apologetics to a whole new level.