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Apple September 2015 Keynote

63 points by jbernardo95 11y ago

iraphael 11y ago
Stream link to view it on VLC: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/15pijbnaefvpoijbaefvpihb06/m3u8/atv_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/15pijbnaefv... Credit: http://www.networkworld.com/article/2981623/ios/how-to-live-stream-apples-iphone-6s-event-on-android-and-windows.html http://www.networkworld.com/article/2981623/ios/how-to-live-...
- chinathrow 11y ago
  No luck for me.
  - Nickoladze 11y ago
    It's not live yet
  - iraphael 11y ago
    Should go live 10am PST/1pm EST.
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]
- lfender6445 11y ago
  10am PDT, 1pm east coast http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2015/ http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2015/
  - raverbashing 11y ago
    1700GMT (or 18h Irish/British Summer Time)
- draw_down 11y ago
  You can also paste this into Quicktime player (command + L, then paste)
- silvestrov 11y ago
  Updated VLC link: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1509pijnedfvopihbefvpijlkjb/m3u8/hls_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1509pijnedf...
- thehigherlife 11y ago
  This one worked for me: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1509pijnedfvopihbefvpijlkjb/m3u8/hls_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1509pijnedf...
croddin 11y ago
> Requirements: Live streaming uses Apple’s HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) technology. HLS requires ..., or a PC with Microsoft Edge on Windows 10. Interesting. They are limiting it to their own devices and software, except they allow Microsoft Edge. Is there a technical reason for this? Couldn't Chrome/Firefox work? Strange that they would give Edge an exception.
- pantulis 11y ago
  I think this is one of Apple's semi-standard protocols that just happens to be supported by Edge, not that Apple is "allowing" Microsoft's browser in any way.
- grecy 11y ago
  This is the first time They've allowed Windows, I think
  - Killswitch 11y ago
    They don't "allow" anything. No other browsers support HLS
- IBM 11y ago
  Edge supports HLS, the others don't.
- itp 11y ago
  It's not that they gave Edge an exception, it's that only Edge, aside from Apple products, implements HLS (an Apple specification).
- nrb 11y ago
  Microsoft Edge fully supports HLS, Firefox doesn't at all, and Chrome doesn't officially support it on desktop browsers.
- marquis 11y ago
  Chrome supports its own streaming method, MPEG-DASH with H.264 which is what Youtube runs on where possible. Firefox stated it won't support H.264 on principle (although it does now, for WebRTC). Android supports HLS, as does iOS, out of the box. HLS was designed to supersede RTSP however we also have the equally-ubiquitous RTMP, which Flash supports natively. You can get an HLS stream via Flash with an add-on to some clients so now this will work on IE, Chrome Firefox, and there are also some custom, proprietary clients out there for h.264/HLS. It's not a pleasant ecosystem right now..
clamprecht 11y ago
Ah, my semi-annual "fire up Safari" event.
- atonse 11y ago
  I used to be like that but ever since I found my fans not spinning and the extra 2 hours of battery life under Safari, I haven't gone back to Chrome. Truth be told, I have stability issues with Safari (and sometimes opening up new blank tabs takes 5 seconds... kind of ridiculous) but I prefer that my laptop not get too hot.
  - clamprecht 11y ago
    I recently turned off flash by default in Chrome. Changed my life.
    - ljoshua 11y ago
      Do you find anything missing in particular, or non-functioning?
      - untog 11y ago
        Not the OP, but I found that Google Play Music wouldn't work with Flash disabled in Safari, but also wouldn't tell me why. I had to manually enable it, then it worked fine.
      - vetinari 11y ago
        You shouldn't miss many things. Maybe some embedded videos on news sites that are not youtube, but I can live with that. I'm running Firefox without flash for months already, everything is fine ;)
    - vetinari 11y ago
      Google also turned off flash (except the "main content") by default in Chrome 45. It's now click to play.
  - 11y ago
tomelders 11y ago
I feel like the Apple event page should show you the start time in your timezone. It's on a computer after all.
- nemo44x 11y ago
  There are a lot of edge cases that could go wrong there such as people who live right near a timezone border. Not to mention VPN's, etc. Giving a direct time and timezone prevents a lot of potential issues and mitigates a lot of risk. A worthy optimization for this case I suspect.
  - girfan 11y ago
    Or they could just give a countdown timer?
    - s_kilk 11y ago
      That would be ideal, as the start of the event is an absolute quantity of time into the future regardless of what timezone the user is in.
    - nemo44x 11y ago
      Sounds like a good idea to me. Have both, put the countdown under the time and date.
  - Phlarp 11y ago
    September keynotes sure do bring out the Appologists in force.
rebootthesystem 11y ago
Seriously, what a shit elitist company Apple is turning out to be. You can't watch this on Chrome or Firefox. You can't watch it on Safari on a PC. Quicktime on a PC gives a friendly "Error 47: Invalid URL. 0". In the meantime any 15 year old kid can get online and webcast anything they want to millions of people around the world watching on any browser on any device. These limitations imposed by Apple are purely artificial. There is no technical reason for which they couldn't make this available on any device and any browser. Unbelievable. I'm so glad we got our apps off the iOS ecosystem and stopped developing products for free only to bolster Apple's standing. This is not a company you want to partner with in any way unless you happen to be another 800 pound gorilla. Sad.

63 points by jbernardo95 11y ago

Stream link to view it on VLC: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/15pijbnaefvpoijbaefvpihb06/m3u8/atv_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/15pijbnaefv... Credit: http://www.networkworld.com/article/2981623/ios/how-to-live-stream-apples-iphone-6s-event-on-android-and-windows.html http://www.networkworld.com/article/2981623/ios/how-to-live-...

chinathrow 11y ago
No luck for me.
- Nickoladze 11y ago
  It's not live yet
- iraphael 11y ago
  Should go live 10am PST/1pm EST.
deleted 11y ago
[deleted]
lfender6445 11y ago
10am PDT, 1pm east coast http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2015/ http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2015/
- raverbashing 11y ago
  1700GMT (or 18h Irish/British Summer Time)
draw_down 11y ago
You can also paste this into Quicktime player (command + L, then paste)
silvestrov 11y ago
Updated VLC link: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1509pijnedfvopihbefvpijlkjb/m3u8/hls_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1509pijnedf...
thehigherlife 11y ago
This one worked for me: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1509pijnedfvopihbefvpijlkjb/m3u8/hls_mvp.m3u8 http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1509pijnedf...

croddin 11y ago

> Requirements: Live streaming uses Apple’s HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) technology. HLS requires ..., or a PC with Microsoft Edge on Windows 10. Interesting. They are limiting it to their own devices and software, except they allow Microsoft Edge. Is there a technical reason for this? Couldn't Chrome/Firefox work? Strange that they would give Edge an exception.

pantulis 11y ago
I think this is one of Apple's semi-standard protocols that just happens to be supported by Edge, not that Apple is "allowing" Microsoft's browser in any way.
grecy 11y ago
This is the first time They've allowed Windows, I think
- Killswitch 11y ago
  They don't "allow" anything. No other browsers support HLS
IBM 11y ago
Edge supports HLS, the others don't.
itp 11y ago
It's not that they gave Edge an exception, it's that only Edge, aside from Apple products, implements HLS (an Apple specification).
nrb 11y ago
Microsoft Edge fully supports HLS, Firefox doesn't at all, and Chrome doesn't officially support it on desktop browsers.
marquis 11y ago
Chrome supports its own streaming method, MPEG-DASH with H.264 which is what Youtube runs on where possible. Firefox stated it won't support H.264 on principle (although it does now, for WebRTC). Android supports HLS, as does iOS, out of the box. HLS was designed to supersede RTSP however we also have the equally-ubiquitous RTMP, which Flash supports natively. You can get an HLS stream via Flash with an add-on to some clients so now this will work on IE, Chrome Firefox, and there are also some custom, proprietary clients out there for h.264/HLS. It's not a pleasant ecosystem right now..

clamprecht 11y ago

Ah, my semi-annual "fire up Safari" event.

atonse 11y ago
I used to be like that but ever since I found my fans not spinning and the extra 2 hours of battery life under Safari, I haven't gone back to Chrome. Truth be told, I have stability issues with Safari (and sometimes opening up new blank tabs takes 5 seconds... kind of ridiculous) but I prefer that my laptop not get too hot.
- clamprecht 11y ago
  I recently turned off flash by default in Chrome. Changed my life.
  - ljoshua 11y ago
    Do you find anything missing in particular, or non-functioning?
    - untog 11y ago
      Not the OP, but I found that Google Play Music wouldn't work with Flash disabled in Safari, but also wouldn't tell me why. I had to manually enable it, then it worked fine.
    - vetinari 11y ago
      You shouldn't miss many things. Maybe some embedded videos on news sites that are not youtube, but I can live with that. I'm running Firefox without flash for months already, everything is fine ;)
  - vetinari 11y ago
    Google also turned off flash (except the "main content") by default in Chrome 45. It's now click to play.
- 11y ago

tomelders 11y ago

I feel like the Apple event page should show you the start time in your timezone. It's on a computer after all.

nemo44x 11y ago
There are a lot of edge cases that could go wrong there such as people who live right near a timezone border. Not to mention VPN's, etc. Giving a direct time and timezone prevents a lot of potential issues and mitigates a lot of risk. A worthy optimization for this case I suspect.
- girfan 11y ago
  Or they could just give a countdown timer?
  - s_kilk 11y ago
    That would be ideal, as the start of the event is an absolute quantity of time into the future regardless of what timezone the user is in.
  - nemo44x 11y ago
    Sounds like a good idea to me. Have both, put the countdown under the time and date.
- Phlarp 11y ago
  September keynotes sure do bring out the Appologists in force.

rebootthesystem 11y ago

Seriously, what a shit elitist company Apple is turning out to be. You can't watch this on Chrome or Firefox. You can't watch it on Safari on a PC. Quicktime on a PC gives a friendly "Error 47: Invalid URL. 0". In the meantime any 15 year old kid can get online and webcast anything they want to millions of people around the world watching on any browser on any device. These limitations imposed by Apple are purely artificial. There is no technical reason for which they couldn't make this available on any device and any browser. Unbelievable. I'm so glad we got our apps off the iOS ecosystem and stopped developing products for free only to bolster Apple's standing. This is not a company you want to partner with in any way unless you happen to be another 800 pound gorilla. Sad.