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Nothing is free. Even if the student isn't paying tuition, someone is. So in your opinion who should that be?

by closure 11y ago

throwawayredux 11y ago
Anyone else but her or himself, obviously.
lokedhs 11y ago
Everybody, in the form of taxes. After all, education benefits the entire society so it makes sense everybody helps pay for it. It's also a good way to take advantage of all potential instead of only the ones that happen to have money.
- closure 11y ago
  That's already happening in the U.S. - State schools are heavily subsidized by taxes. I went to one which was (and still is) relatively inexpensive for in-state students and delivered fantastic value for what I paid. Saying "universities should be free" and that it should be paid for "by taxes" without being more specific about which universities and what taxes paid for by which specific people doesn't really add anything.
  - lokedhs 11y ago
    Which universities? All that gets anything from the state (like subsidies, etc) Which people? Everybody that can pay for it. It should come out of the state budget. I.e. the same people who pays for the military, the roads, the politician's salaries.
  - cableshaft 11y ago
    Those subsidies have gone way, way down since at least 2008, for quite a few states. That's part of the reason tuition has been skyrocketing, to make up for the reduced subsidies. At one school that I know someone who works on the staff, the state was perpetually six months behind where it was supposed to be for payments and they had to go through a 40% reduction in their subsidy. In Illinois, they even proposed a bill to privatize their public schools this year. I don't think it passed, but the fact that it was even proposed says something. Source: http://www.dailyeasternnews.com/2015/03/24/senator-proposes-bill-privatizing-public-universities/ http://www.dailyeasternnews.com/2015/03/24/senator-proposes-...
  - jazzyk 11y ago
    Inexpensive? It costs $26K/year (tuition + room&board) to attend University of Massachusetts.
pluma 11y ago
Everyone. Other people's education is a form of infrastructure. Everyone benefits from living in an educated society so everyone should pay for it via taxes. But of course this is completely unrealistic in the US where even socialised healthcare is looked upon as bordering on communism.
ionised 11y ago
The tax payer.

Nothing is free. Even if the student isn't paying tuition, someone is. So in your opinion who should that be?

by closure 11y ago

Nothing is free. Even if the student isn't paying tuition, someone is. So in your opinion who should that be?

throwawayredux 11y ago

Anyone else but her or himself, obviously.

lokedhs 11y ago

Everybody, in the form of taxes. After all, education benefits the entire society so it makes sense everybody helps pay for it. It's also a good way to take advantage of all potential instead of only the ones that happen to have money.

closure 11y ago
That's already happening in the U.S. - State schools are heavily subsidized by taxes. I went to one which was (and still is) relatively inexpensive for in-state students and delivered fantastic value for what I paid. Saying "universities should be free" and that it should be paid for "by taxes" without being more specific about which universities and what taxes paid for by which specific people doesn't really add anything.
- lokedhs 11y ago
  Which universities? All that gets anything from the state (like subsidies, etc) Which people? Everybody that can pay for it. It should come out of the state budget. I.e. the same people who pays for the military, the roads, the politician's salaries.
- cableshaft 11y ago
  Those subsidies have gone way, way down since at least 2008, for quite a few states. That's part of the reason tuition has been skyrocketing, to make up for the reduced subsidies. At one school that I know someone who works on the staff, the state was perpetually six months behind where it was supposed to be for payments and they had to go through a 40% reduction in their subsidy. In Illinois, they even proposed a bill to privatize their public schools this year. I don't think it passed, but the fact that it was even proposed says something. Source: http://www.dailyeasternnews.com/2015/03/24/senator-proposes-bill-privatizing-public-universities/ http://www.dailyeasternnews.com/2015/03/24/senator-proposes-...
- jazzyk 11y ago
  Inexpensive? It costs $26K/year (tuition + room&board) to attend University of Massachusetts.

pluma 11y ago

Everyone. Other people's education is a form of infrastructure. Everyone benefits from living in an educated society so everyone should pay for it via taxes. But of course this is completely unrealistic in the US where even socialised healthcare is looked upon as bordering on communism.

ionised 11y ago

The tax payer.